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The City & The City (Random House Reader's Circle) (original 2009; udgave 2010)

af China Mieville

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NAMED ONE OF THE BEST BOOKS OF THE YEAR BY THE LOS ANGELES TIMES, THE SEATTLE TIMES, AND PUBLISHERS WEEKLY.
 
When a murdered woman is found in the city of Beszel, somewhere at the edge of Europe, it looks to be a routine case for Inspector Tyador Borlú of the Extreme Crime Squad. To investigate, Borlú must travel from the decaying Beszel to its equal, rival, and intimate neighbor, the vibrant city of Ul Qoma. But this is a border crossing like no other, a journey as psychic as it is physical, a seeing of the unseen. With Ul Qoman detective Qussim Dhatt, Borlú is enmeshed in a sordid underworld of nationalists intent on destroying their neighboring city, and unificationists who dream of dissolving the two into one. As the detectives uncover the dead woman??s secrets, they begin to suspect a truth that could cost them more than their lives. What stands against them are murderous powers in Beszel and in Ul Qoma: and, m… (mere)

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Titel:The City & The City (Random House Reader's Circle)
Forfattere:China Mieville
Info:Del Rey (2010), Edition: Reprint, Paperback, 352 pages
Samlinger:Dit bibliotek, Læser for øjeblikket
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The City & The City af China Miéville (2009)

  1. 160
    Det jiddische politiforbund : roman af Michael Chabon (grizzly.anderson, kaipakartik)
    grizzly.anderson: Both are police procedural mysteries set in slightly alternate worlds.
    kaipakartik: Both are detective tales in alternate settings
  2. 122
    De usynlige byer af Italo Calvino (snarkhunt)
    snarkhunt: Calvino's book is a travelogue of impossible societies while China's book is a sweet little noir stuck in the middle of one.
  3. 112
    Neverwhere : en rejse på Undersiden af Neil Gaiman (ahstrick)
  4. 91
    Anathem af Neal Stephenson (chmod007, sturlington)
    chmod007: Both novels depict coexisting-but-dissociated societies — drastically foreign to the world we live in — but help us reflect on it.
  5. 70
    Finch af Jeff VanderMeer (ShelfMonkey)
  6. 70
    Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius [short story] af Jorge Luis Borges (bertilak)
  7. 60
    Non Lon Don af China Miéville (heidialice)
    heidialice: May be an obvious recommendation, but these books cover a similar (very original) premise in very different ways. Un Lun Dun is for young teens, smaller in scope and message-heavy; The City & The City for adults, deals with complex themes and offers no easy answers. Both display Mieville's consummate skills and elegant humor.… (mere)
  8. 61
    Orsinian Tales af Ursula K. Le Guin (ed.pendragon)
    ed.pendragon: Le Guin's Orsinia may have been an inspiration for Mieville's mythical Orciny in The City and the City.
  9. 40
    Hav af Jan Morris (ed.pendragon)
    ed.pendragon: Miéville's The City and the City acknowledges Jan Morris as an influence on his fractured cities novel, and Morris' travel book novel Hav (fictional trips to a fictional state) is the most likely reference.
  10. 41
    Night Watch af Sergei Lukyanenko (julienne_preacher)
    julienne_preacher: Both books are about divided realities (and both books are awesome).
  11. 30
    The Power af Naomi Alderman (charl08)
    charl08: Both books ask questions about what we take for granted in our everyday realtors..
  12. 30
    A Maze of Death af Philip K. Dick (AlanPoulter)
    AlanPoulter: Two tales of paranoia and murder set in very odd worlds that just get stranger....
  13. 20
    The Kindly Ones af Melissa Scott (sandstone78)
    sandstone78: Similar themes of parallel societies.
  14. 20
    The Other City af Michal Ajvaz (bunnygirl)
    bunnygirl: Czech novel about an alternate Prague; not mentioned as one of the influences for this novel, but perhaps going on a bit of the same (disputed?) territory
  15. 31
    Embassytown af China Miéville (Anonym bruger)
  16. 20
    Shadow & Claw: The First Half of The Book of the New Sun af Gene Wolfe (LamontCranston)
    LamontCranston: In many of Wolfes works he writes like Mieville has in the first person of imagined lands, unlike Mieville his characters do not improbably stop to explain to themselves (and thus to the audience) what a term or reference means - the narrative provides enough information for the audience to figure it out themselves.… (mere)
  17. 20
    Ways of Worldmaking af Nelson Goodman (sek_smith, sek_smith)
    sek_smith: Ways of World Making explains the cognitive processes that allow us to unsee and,thus, understand. The City & the City is a practical application of the concept, most rigorous and well weaved. Very entertaining fiction with plenty of meaning
    sek_smith: This is not a fiction book, but an essay on relativity applied to epistemology. For many interested in the psychological mechanisms at work in The city & the City, this is a good read.
  18. 20
    The Windup Girl af Paolo Bacigalupi (sturlington)
  19. 20
    A Man of Shadows af Jeff Noon (grizzly.anderson)
    grizzly.anderson: Detective stories set in cites that are turned about 90 degrees from the reality we understand.
  20. 20
    Gnomon af Nick Harkaway (paradoxosalpha)
    paradoxosalpha: Sfnal police procedurals with an epistemological/metaphysical edge.

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Interesting plot and fascinating premise, though the writing was a bit hard sometimes due to some extremely bizarre and random grammatical errors. The foundational idea of the book--how two bordering city-states co-exist in a state of recognition/non-recognition resonates so powerfully with a number of geo-political hot spots from Yugoslavia to Palestine and Israel. For most of the book I was convinced it was a commentary on the latter, but by the end it seemed a more generalized statement. ( )
  lschiff | Sep 24, 2023 |
The premise: two cities, two countries that occupy the same physical space, but the inhabitants of each are prohibited from seeing or interacting with the other. Makes no sense at all, right? This was honestly the weirdest story I've ever read, which I also happened to really like. It's a police procedural and a noir thriller, but also batshit-strange urban fantasy. Impossible to categorise and hard to recommend, but hard not to. Read this if you feel like having a master storyteller lead you somewhere that you've never been. ( )
  ropable | Aug 20, 2023 |
This book gets 3 stars because it is an obvious experiment and it almost succeeds. It explores the idea that two cities can exist separately in the same space 'grosstopically' without resorting to the typical alternate dimension bromide. In order to accomplish this, the separation of the two cities is itself a thought experiment that has been maintained and nurtured by the people for centuries. A murder intrudes and seems to threaten the future of the separation.

But 'almost' does not get it a recommendation. I found the writing to be almost haphazard throughout. That may have been a stylistic choice. I found it hard to stay with. After a while, the idea that at least two complete cultures could live so intermingled, yet so separate, for so long did not resonate as even remotely feasible.

Ultimately, the story, though was about Inspector Borlu and his investigation. Did he change by the end of the novel? Yes. Did he solve the crime? I won't spoil it. At least he was a reasonably amiable partner in the journey. Trouble is, he is so well written, in a way, that it was often difficult to distinguish between people and places. He was too close to it. To familiar with it all. So description was mostly glossed over and muddled. I found it hard to visualize most of the secondary characters and none of the tertiary. And only a couple of places stick out in my memory and even they are muddled. Perhaps, again, that was a stylistic choice.

In the end, I can only applaud the author for his attempt and for his managing to keep me with him through the whole thing. But that's about it. I wanted to like this book so much more. ( )
  zot79 | Aug 20, 2023 |
China Mieville is the author when it comes to cities. I've found some of his other works tedious going because he puts so much love and adoration into his settings that he can't help but nudge the plot out of the way to show you his cool setting. Luckily, when it comes to The City & The City, Mieville had a brilliant idea: the detective novel provides a perfect frame for him to show off his city without it fighting for attention with his plot. Because there's a mystery to investigate, the details of the setting become critical to the plot, and can be properly showcased. Inspector Borlu is perfect for the job of tour guide -- the archetypal detective, he neither truly inhabits his life, but clinically examines his surroundings, and his arms-length remove from the city sets up the theme nicely.

Of course, where The City & The City shines is in the titular cities and there are (at least) three: Beszel: a prototypical Eastern European Olde Country; Ul Qoma: nouveau riche and glitzy; the combined physical reality that contains both, transposed on top of each other, not to mention Orciny -- the mythical third city that lies in the interstitial space. The idea is just so cool. And then the more I thought about it, the more I reflect on life, and that, my friends, is what makes a good book into a great book.

The central conceit is this: Ul Qoma and Beszel occupy the same space. I at first thought that this requires science fiction or fantasy, but Mieville employs neither here. Instead, he simply invents a political system where Ul Qoma and Beszel refuse to notice each other, even when physically located in the same place. They speak different languages, follow different rules and have different cultures. This was a stretch for me at first -- more of a stretch than imagining a magical system, to be honest. But then I started thinking of real-life split cities, like Jerusalem, where adjoining spaces belong to different governing bodies, speak different languages and in general refuse to acknowledge each other (even though in the book this exact example is brought up and belittled). And then I started thinking more generally and more close to home: I live in a neighborhood that walks the fine line between diversity and gentrification. Could it not be said that there are the neighbors, whether I know them or not, that I acknowledge more -- that, because I see similarity in the way they dress, talk and hold themselves, I am more likely to make small talk? When I talk about buying a house, there are blocks -- right next to highly desirable blocks -- where I would never live, because of the style of the houses and the presumed personalities of the neighbors (and the imaginary line dividing real people from the loathed undergrads.) And then I reflect on the recent political events and it's hard to argue that the same laws apply to everyone in the city, even in one physical location. So I spent a lot of time thinking about what these imaginary-but-real divisions in my life are, and what to do about them, since there is no all-powerful Breach in real life.

This ability to write a book that is intriguing prima facie, but that has used speculative fiction to explore deeper truths about real life is the exact reason that I read speculative fiction. The back of my copy of the City and The City compares it to Orwell and Kafka, but honestly, I think it transcends that and can only be compared to the true master: [a:Ursula K. Le Guin|874602|Ursula K. Le Guin|https://images.gr-assets.com/authors/1244291425p2/874602.jpg]. And to say it holds up well in the comparison is a compliment of the highest order. ( )
  settingshadow | Aug 19, 2023 |
How much does perception shape reality? Inspector Tyador Borlu of the Extreme Crime Squad finds a deadly conspiracy beneath a routine murder, and joins Detective Qussim Dhatt of his sister city Ul Quoma in trying to untangle the sordid web of nationalism and unificationism in twin cities that just happen to occupy the same space.

This was an incredibly China Mieville novel, if that makes sense -- and its concept, while interesting, was incredibly confusing for a good long while. It was both fascinating and overwhelming, and it absolutely overshadowed the story in a lot of ways. ( )
  lyrrael | Aug 3, 2023 |
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Subtly, almost casually, Miéville constructs a metaphor for modern life in which our habits of "unseeing" allow us to ignore that which does not directly affect our familiar lives. Yet he doesn't encourage us to understand his novel as a parable, rather as a police mystery dealing with extraordinary circumstances. The book is a fine, page-turning murder investigation in the tradition of Philip K Dick, gradually opening up to become something bigger and more significant than we originally suspected.
tilføjet af andyl | RedigerThe Guardian, Michael Moorcock (May 30, 2009)
 
Readers should shed their preconceptions and treat themselves to a highly original and gripping experience.The City & The City is still Urban Fantasy, yes, but don't look for elves on motorcycles or spell-casting cops. China Miéville has done something very different, new, and — oh yeah — weird.
tilføjet af PhoenixTerran | Redigerio9, Chris Hsiang (May 28, 2009)
 
The novel works best when Miéville trusts his storytelling instincts. I was immediately entranced by the premise of doppel cities and didn't need it explained at every turn.

At times, I appreciated the intellectual brilliance of "The City" more than I lost myself in it. Borlú seemed an archetype more than a fleshed-out character. That's OK. The real protagonists here are the mirror cities themselves, and the strange inner workings that make them, and their residents, tick.
 
Miéville’s achievement is at once remarkable and subtle. His overlapping cities take in an aspect of our own world—social conventions—wholesale. But by describing those conventions using conceptual tools borrowed from traditional “worldbuilding” fantasy, he heightens awareness of the unnoticed in our own lives. He doesn’t give us symbols. He gives us real life rendered with all the more clarity for its apparent weirdness.
 

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NAMED ONE OF THE BEST BOOKS OF THE YEAR BY THE LOS ANGELES TIMES, THE SEATTLE TIMES, AND PUBLISHERS WEEKLY.
 
When a murdered woman is found in the city of Beszel, somewhere at the edge of Europe, it looks to be a routine case for Inspector Tyador Borlú of the Extreme Crime Squad. To investigate, Borlú must travel from the decaying Beszel to its equal, rival, and intimate neighbor, the vibrant city of Ul Qoma. But this is a border crossing like no other, a journey as psychic as it is physical, a seeing of the unseen. With Ul Qoman detective Qussim Dhatt, Borlú is enmeshed in a sordid underworld of nationalists intent on destroying their neighboring city, and unificationists who dream of dissolving the two into one. As the detectives uncover the dead woman??s secrets, they begin to suspect a truth that could cost them more than their lives. What stands against them are murderous powers in Beszel and in Ul Qoma: and, m

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