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Old man's war af John Scalzi
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Old man's war (original 2005; udgave 2005)

af John Scalzi

Serier: Old Man's War (1)

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John Perry did two things on his 75th birthday. First he visited his wife's grave. Then he joined the army. The good news is that humanity finally made it into interstellar space. The bad news is that planets fit to live on are scarce--and alien races willing to fight us for them are common. So: we fight. To defend Earth, and to stake our own claim to planetary real estate. Far from Earth, the war has been going on for decades: brutal, bloody, unyielding. Earth itself is a backwater. The bulk of humanity's resources are in the hands of the Colonial Defense Force. Everybody knows that when you reach retirement age, you can join the CDF. They don't want young people; they want people who carry the knowledge and skills of decades of living. You'll be taken off Earth and never allowed to return. You'll serve two years at the front. And if you survive, you'll be given a generous homestead stake of your own, on one of our hard-won colony planets. John Perry is taking that deal. He has only the vaguest idea what to expect. Because the actual fight, light-years from home, is far, far harder than he can imagine--and what he will become is far stranger. Old Man's War Series #1Old Man's War #2The Ghost Brigades #3The Last Colony #4Zoe's Tale #5The Human Division #6The End of All Things Short fiction: "After the Coup" Other Tor Books The Android's Dream Agent to the Stars Your Hate Mail Will Be Graded Fuzzy Nation Redshirts Lock In The Collapsing Empire (forthcoming)… (mere)
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Titel:Old man's war
Forfattere:John Scalzi
Info:New York : A Tom Doherty Associates Book, 2005.
Samlinger:Dit bibliotek
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Old Man's War af John Scalzi (2005)

  1. 173
    Ender's strategi : roman af Orson Scott Card (ohdio, jlynno84)
    ohdio: This book contains a lot of action, while still maintaining a nice human element.
  2. 162
    Starship Troopers af Robert A. Heinlein (goodiegoodie, jlynno84)
  3. 110
    The Forever War af Joe Haldeman (JulesJones)
    JulesJones: Two books which examine in different ways what happens to the recruits in an interstellar war who by the very nature of their service can never go back to their home culture.
  4. 80
    Young Miles (The Warrior's Apprentice / The Mountains of Mourning / The Vor Game) af Lois McMaster Bujold (jlynno84)
  5. 30
    The Last Colony af John Scalzi (Karlstar)
    Karlstar: John Scalzi introduces the universe of the Colonial Union in this book. Similar in feel to Starship Troopers, in many ways.
  6. 20
    Dauntless af Jack Campbell (goodiegoodie, BruderBane)
  7. 31
    Armor af John Steakley (goodiegoodie)
  8. 10
    Future War af Jack Dann (TomWaitsTables)
    TomWaitsTables: An anthology of stories in this vein.
  9. 10
    Space Cadet af Robert A. Heinlein (JulesJones)
    JulesJones: The obvious Heinlein influence on Scalzi's "Old Man's War" is "Starship Troopers", but this also covers some of the same ground as Heinlein's YA "Space Cadet".
  10. 10
    Containment af Christian Cantrell (freddlerabbit)
  11. 00
    Expendable af James Alan Gardner (PhoenixFalls)
  12. 00
    Leviathan Wakes af James S. A. Corey (g33kgrrl)
  13. 00
    Cobra af Timothy Zahn (PhoenixFalls)
  14. 00
    Crystal Rain af Tobias S. Buckell (tcgardner)
  15. 00
    47 Echo af Shawn Kupfer (tottman)
    tottman: 47 Echo lacks the depth (and the universe-spanning scope) of Old Man's War, but the story and the fighting are both quite enjoyable. I won't say it's nearly as good as Old Man's War, but it is a quick, fun enjoyable read. And there's a lot of potential from this author I hope to see come out in future books.… (mere)
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    Grease Monkey af Tim Eldred (goodiegoodie)
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Clearly written to be the first of many. Decent light reading but I"m not inclined to continue the series. ( )
  KittyCunningham | Apr 26, 2021 |
I enjoyed reading this book. A mix of sci-fi, character development, interpersonal relationships. The only reason I am not giving it 5 stars is because the sci-fi concepts are not as strong in the book as for example, Peter F. Hamilton's Void trilogy. I recommend it to anyone reading sci-fi in general and military sci-fi in particular. ( )
  FirstSpeaker | Apr 16, 2021 |
Wow.

That was a great telling of a second chance on life -inside a space opera-.

Liked the description of the futuristic take on military life and how it was keep away from the earth populace, maybe the explain on another book why it was necessary to manage it in that way.

It was interesting to me the explanation of how the travelling technology was using the intricate ways of the universe and its repercussions on the sense of one on self.

Surprising to me, knowing that I am not romantic inclined, never the less I liked the second chance to a renovated love. ( )
  AngelBar | Feb 18, 2021 |
This was an exciting adventure tale and a very quick read. The basic concept is that, in a future society, 75 year olds are recruited for a special intergalactic combat force, made young again, and trained to fight alien races so that humans can colonize the universe. I'll definitely be picking up the two other books set in the same universe - The Ghost Brigades and The Last Colony. ( )
  unsquare | Feb 16, 2021 |
I have a somewhat contradictory history with this book. When I first read this when it came out, I would have said it was a bit meandering but entertaining, a nice update to Starship Trooper. Three stars- like.

Then I reread it on Audible because it was on one of those get the first book of a series for $5 sales. By now there were four books. This time I found it really entertaining and started to get the feeling something more was going on that I saw at first blush. I read through the rest of the series and, yes, there is a sweeping narrative that is going on across all four books. So I went to four stars - worth a read even if you're not me.

Since then, I've made it a habit to pick up what Scalzi writes to see what his sarcastic self is going to say next. He's really good at sarcasm. He made me cry in public when I was grocery shopping and listening to Fuzzy Nation. I've never forgiven him for that. And don't get me started on that Wil Wheaton! Bastards!

ANYWAY: On June 5th comes out Redshirts which looks to be very interesting indeed, telling the story of the starship away team from the cannon fodder's point of view. So I thought it would be fun to go back and re-read Old Man's War.

This is one of the most subversive books I've ever read.

Wow! It quotes quite a few tropes from SST and other military science fiction but takes an entirely different tack on them. There is a whole section rebutting the SST classroom screed about might makes right that is so right on that I wanted to stand up and cheer -- don't tell me I'm wrong, show me.

A constantly recurring theme is the characters saying one thing while the entire background is completely contradictory to that. Its as if the characters are blissfully unaware of the irony of what they are saying. And it subtle like one of those optical illusions that you can easily just not see if you're not specifically looking for it.

So I'm going to put this at five stars-- a must read. If you want to understand military science, you must read this book (along with SST, The Forever War, and The Warrior, among others). For me, this book is a modern classic. ( )
  frfeni | Jan 31, 2021 |
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There has never been a military in the entire history of the human race that has gone to war equipped with more than the least that it needs to fight its enemy. War is expensive. It costs money and it costs lives and no civilization has an infinite amount of either. So when you fight, you conserve. You use and equip only as much as you have to, never more.
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. . . "There has never been a military in the entire history of the human race that has gone to war equipped with more than the least that it needs to fight its enemy. War is expensive. It costs money and it costs lives and no civilization has an infinite amount of either. So when you fight, you conserve. You use and equip only as much as you have to, never more."

He stared at us grimly. "Is any of this getting through? Do any of you understand what I'm trying to tell you? You don't have these shiny new bodies and pretty new weapons because we want to give you an unfair advantage. You have these bodies and weapons because they are the absolute minimum that will allow you to fight and survive out there. We don't want to give you these bodies, you dipshits. It's just that if we didn't, the human race would already be extinct."

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John Perry did two things on his 75th birthday. First he visited his wife's grave. Then he joined the army. The good news is that humanity finally made it into interstellar space. The bad news is that planets fit to live on are scarce--and alien races willing to fight us for them are common. So: we fight. To defend Earth, and to stake our own claim to planetary real estate. Far from Earth, the war has been going on for decades: brutal, bloody, unyielding. Earth itself is a backwater. The bulk of humanity's resources are in the hands of the Colonial Defense Force. Everybody knows that when you reach retirement age, you can join the CDF. They don't want young people; they want people who carry the knowledge and skills of decades of living. You'll be taken off Earth and never allowed to return. You'll serve two years at the front. And if you survive, you'll be given a generous homestead stake of your own, on one of our hard-won colony planets. John Perry is taking that deal. He has only the vaguest idea what to expect. Because the actual fight, light-years from home, is far, far harder than he can imagine--and what he will become is far stranger. Old Man's War Series #1Old Man's War #2The Ghost Brigades #3The Last Colony #4Zoe's Tale #5The Human Division #6The End of All Things Short fiction: "After the Coup" Other Tor Books The Android's Dream Agent to the Stars Your Hate Mail Will Be Graded Fuzzy Nation Redshirts Lock In The Collapsing Empire (forthcoming)

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