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Cryptonomicon (1999)

af Neal Stephenson

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An American computer hacker operating in Southeast Asia attempts to break a World War II cypher to find the location of a missing shipment of gold. The gold was stolen by the Japanese during the war. By the author of The Diamond Age.
Nyligt tilføjet afliuxl89, JanetPiele, Kendrik, letocq, privat bibliotek, Notfub, mysterymuffin, eeconley31, kiekerjan, Adam.Ressler
Efterladte bibliotekerLeslie Scalapino
  1. 202
    Snow Crash af Neal Stephenson (moonstormer)
  2. 132
    Gödel, Escher, Bach : et evigt gyldent bånd af Douglas R. Hofstadter (Zaklog)
    Zaklog: Cryptonomicon strikes me as the kind of book that Hofstadter would write if he wrote fiction. Both books are complex, with discursive passages on mathematics and a positively weird sense of humor. If you enjoyed (rather than endured) the explanatory sections on cryptography and the charts of Waterhouse's love life (among other, rarely charted things) you should really like this book.… (mere)
  3. 100
    Mønstergenkendelse af William Gibson (S_Meyerson)
  4. 100
    The Codebreakers: The Comprehensive History of Secret Communication from Ancient Times to the Internet af David Kahn (grizzly.anderson)
    grizzly.anderson: A great and fairly easy to read history of much of the history and cryptography the novel is based on.
  5. 112
    Anathem af Neal Stephenson (BriarE)
  6. 90
    Kodebogen : videnskaben om hemmelige budskaber - fra oldtidens Ægypten til kvantekryptering af Simon Singh (S_Meyerson)
  7. 70
    Daemon af Daniel Suarez (simon_carr)
  8. 61
    Secrets and lies : digital security in a networked world af Bruce Schneier (bertilak)
  9. 40
    The Gone-Away World af Nick Harkaway (ahstrick)
  10. 40
    Logicomix : en tegnet fortælling om jagten på sandhed af Apostolos Doxiadis (tomduck)
  11. 41
    Reamde af Neal Stephenson (Anonym bruger)
  12. 63
    Sindssygelægen af Caleb Carr (igorken)
  13. 30
    PopCo af Scarlett Thomas (daysailor, Widsith)
    daysailor: Same kind of edgy writing, intertwining cryptography history with good story-telling
    Widsith: More cryptography and conspiracy and earnest philosophical asides (though Thomas writes women characters a lot better than Stephenson)
  14. 1715
    Moby-Dick eller Hvalen af Herman Melville (lorax)
    lorax: Seriously. A big fat book immersing the reader in a bizarre and alien culture, with well-written infodumps on subjects of interest to the narrator interspersed throughout the story. It's a very Stephenson-esque book.
  15. 31
    Rosens navn : roman af Umberto Eco (LamontCranston)
    LamontCranston: Weaving fact and speculation, history and fiction, mysteries within mysteries
  16. 22
    Jacob de Zoets tusind efterår af David Mitchell (psybre)
  17. 00
    Decoded af Mai Jia (hairball)
  18. 00
    Battle of Wits: The Complete Story of Codebreaking in World War II af Stephen Budiansky (Busifer)
    Busifer: Many of the events featuring in Stephenson's Cryptonomicon have actually happened and while Budiansky isn't the most eloquent author his book is an interesting companion read.
  19. 00
    In Code: A Mathematical Journey af Sarah Flannery (bertilak)
  20. 11
    Enigma af Robert Harris (ianturton)
    ianturton: Another fictionalized look at Bletchly Park, shorter and with fewer Americans.

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I gave this 10 hours on audio (out of about 42). It's not bad, there's just not enough of a coherent story to make me spend another 32 hours listening to it. It's like a bunch of vignettes put together using the same characters and some of the same topics. Stephenson seems to like to start off a scene, refer to something in the scene and then go off on a tangent about it with some cool/interesting/fun backstory, then come back to what was happening and then do it again. It's probably why the book is like 800 pages (42 hours). It's entertaining, but then the scene ends and I'm left thinking, "Wait, did that advance the story at all? What really happened?"

This type of book almost seems like it was written as a "challenge". A challenge to the reader to try to keep track of what's going on and who's who and also a challenge to the writer to write a monstrous epic full of tiny details and minutiae. Like he's trying to mimic Pynchon's style. So if you're into that I definitely suggest it, for me it's more like something I might try once I retire and have the time to invest in it. ( )
  ragwaine | Jan 10, 2021 |
Cryptonomicon is also a mirror though which we darkly consider our recent past, except instead of how DeLillo gives us the flip-side of our material successes (the world of “Just What Is It That Makes Today’s Home So Different, So Appealing?”) in muck and mire, Stephenson focuses on information, on the immaterial. He is interested in how its structures structure our lives. More than this, if the ‘darkside’ parallel is to be valid, then just as the structure of information in the 20th century is such that openness and freedom of digital movement are the ideals held up by theorists and advocates, Cryptonomicon astutely shows that this is more often than not perverted by those who wish to dominate via information and technologies of communication.

With the Baroque Cycle (a trilogy, which serve as a kind of prelude rather than a prequel to Cryptonomicon, which he subsequently penned), Stephenson gives us what amounts to a secret history of the immaterial’s ascendancy, which shows that the material world was predicated on this world that was accessible only to those with the particular inclination to learn the language of the universe, maths and physics. Where Don De Lillo's Underworld is about burying the implications of our approach to living in the world, of using our skills, ideas, tools to alter our surroundings, Cryptonomicon gives us that which we haven’t even repressed as we don’t know enough about it. Encryption is the key to the whole other side of the bright, shiny story that is peddled out so often by the corporate histories (that not infrequently becomes academic and popular history). Not all the information that is out there is available to us, and we do not make all our own information available to others. Stephenson brings us to the point where we can ask ourselves, should everything be available to all?

More here: http://wetwiring.wordpress.com/2011/10/26/information-and-stuff-stephenson-and-d... ( )
  agtgibson | Jan 5, 2021 |
I'm one of the only people in the world who will find this book slightly boring because it seemed like a literal accounting of my daily life at the time it was published -- an island, running cryptocurrencies, with an investor named Avi, and general crypto-anarchism. My only criticisms are two: 1) Neal needs an editor who can stand up to him -- this would have been a better book at half the page count and 2) There is no real ending. ( )
  octal | Jan 1, 2021 |
While I know this book is universally beloved by the geek cognoscenti, I could not get through the first chapter without laughing out loud at the adolescent-level writing. Were there some sense of a knowing wink accompanying the overwrought narrative, you could imagine it spun as a so-good-its-bad sort of book, but that's wholly absent. All of which potentially explains its popularity with this crowd. ( )
  tmdblya | Dec 29, 2020 |
This is a book I just cannot avoid loving. It ticks all my boxes. Well researched, historical, science fiction, well composed, well written. 99% of all technology and cryptology and mathematic (of which there is a lot!) also seemed correct as of ca . You can't imagine how rare that is. Since these technical areas overlap almost perfectly with my academic skills both in time and area, what can I say. I love this book.

The story is set partly in "now", partly in WW2 and the theme is crypto, and how to handle crypto so that the other party doesn't know you have broken their crypto. This was a real problem for the British during WW2 since they had access too so much of the most secret Nazi communications. The Ultra information. They even let people die rather than reveal that they knew about things. There was also the incident of the invasion of Crete where the Crete commander didn't at all adapt to the known invasion plans which cost the British the island (see [b:Crete: The Battle And The Resistance|307588|Crete The Battle And The Resistance|Antony Beevor|https://d.gr-assets.com/books/1347422288s/307588.jpg|3167574]). Back to this book, one main thread is a military unit that has to cover up (create alternative explanations for information leakage). Another main thread is gold. A third thread is the relationship between USA and Japan.

Does all of this sound exciting? Then buy and read this book! It is massive though so be prepared to spend some time with it. Does it sound strange? Well, it is not like your average book.

Bonus: The book even includes its own crypto system. I don't want to say too much about it to not spoil anything but it's a real crypto system. ( )
  bratell | Dec 25, 2020 |
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You'd think such a web of narratives would be hard to follow. Certainly, it's difficult to summarize. But Stephenson, whose science-fiction novels Snow Crash (1992) and The Diamond Age (1995) have been critical and commercial successes despite difficult plotting, has made a quantum jump here as a writer. In addition to his bravura style and interesting authorial choices (Stephenson tells each of his narratives in the present tense, regardless of when they occur chronologically), the book is so tightly plotted that you never lose the thread.

But Stephenson is not an author who's content just to tell good stories. Throughout the book, he takes on the task of explaining the relatively abstruse technical disciplines surrounding cryptology, almost always in ways that a reasonably intelligent educated adult can understand. As I read the book I marked in the margins where Stephenson found opportunities to explain the number theory that underlies modern cryptography; "traffic analysis" (deriving military intelligence from where and when messages are sent and received, without actually decoding them); steganography (hiding secret messages within other, non-secret communications); the electronics of computer monitors (and the security problems created by those monitors); the advantages to Unix-like operating systems compared to Windows or the Mac OS; the theory of monetary systems; and the strategies behind high-tech business litigation. Stephenson assumes that his readers are capable of learning the complex underpinnings of modern technological life.
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This morning [Imelda Marcos] offered the latest in a series of explanations of the billions of dollars that she and her husband, who died in 1989, are believed to have stolen during his presidency.
"It so coincided that Marcos had money," she said. "After the Bretton Woods agreement he started buying gold from Fort Knox. Three thousand tons, then 4,000 tons. I have documents for these: 7,000 tons. Marcos was so smart. He had it all. It's funny; America didn't understand him." —The New York Times, Monday, 4 March, 1996
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LET’S SET THE existence-of-God issue aside for a later volume, and just stipulate that in some way, self-replicating organisms came into existence on this planet and immediately began trying to get rid of each other, either by spamming their environments with rough copies of themselves, or by more direct means which hardly need to be belabored. Most of them failed, and their genetic legacy was erased from the universe forever, but a few found some way to survive and to propagate. After about three billion years of this sometimes zany, frequently tedious fugue of carnality and carnage, Godfrey Waterhouse IV was born, in Murdo, South Dakota, to Blanche, the wife of a Congregational preacher named Bunyan Waterhouse. Like every other creature on the face of the earth, Godfrey was, by birthright, a stupendous badass, albeit in the somewhat narrow technical sense that he could trace his ancestry back up a long line of slightly less highly evolved stupendous badasses to that first self-replicating gizmo—which, given the number and variety of its descendants, might justifiably be described as the most stupendous badass of all time. Everyone and everything that wasn’t a stupendous badass was dead.
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