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Matter af Iain M. Banks
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Matter (udgave 2008)

af Iain M. Banks

Serier: The Culture (8)

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In a distant-future, highly advanced society of seemingly unlimited technological capability, a crime is committed within a war. For one brother it means a desperate flight, and a search for the one--maybe two--people who could clear his name. For his brother it means a life lived under constant threat of treachery and murder. And for their sister, it means returning to a place she'd thought abandoned forever. Only the sister is not what she once was; Djan Seriy Anaplian has become an agent of the Culture's Special Circumstances section, charged with high-level interference in civilizations throughout the greater galaxy. Concealing her new identity--and her particular set of abilities--might be a dangerous strategy. In the world to which Anaplian returns, nothing is quite as it seems; and determining the appropriate level of interference in someone else's war is never a simple matter.… (mere)
Medlem:bholfeltz
Titel:Matter
Forfattere:Iain M. Banks
Info:Orbit (2008), Hardcover, 608 pages
Samlinger:Dit bibliotek
Vurdering:****
Nøgleord:scifi, epic

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I found Matter> to be extremely well written, with a good plot, and an "I-wanna-go-there" future. The ending was exceptionally abrupt, with almost no denouement. Yet I didn't feel cheated in that regard. Obviously, Mr. Banks' instincts as a writer are better than mine.
Pity the other books in this series aren't available as e-books.
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  Treebeard_404 | Jan 23, 2024 |
The biggest exposition galore I've seen. Even by the Culture series I think it is too much. It's not bad it's just exposition. It's like other side of "Look to Windward", where it was too much about life on orbitals and here it's about mostly low tech societies. The revenge theme is the same, the mistakes and stupidity theme is the same, the freedom of choice versus choice theme is the same... and much much more. I can't love this book, it just did not connected. Probably because of this too long exposition at the cost of characters and climax part.

But what I should note is this... There is still no other series that brings "individuality" issue in the sci-fi to such heights. Even here Banks manages to show that the most prised quality of Culture is individuality. ( )
  WorkLastDay | Dec 17, 2023 |
Let's have a confession first. This is my first Culture novel ever, and my very first book by Iain M. Banks. Why is that, you may ask? Well, x years ago I happened to pick up one of his books (can't remember which one) at a bookstore. I read a couple of pages, did not understand anything and put it back in disgust. Since then I had the words "this is not my kind of author and I'm not reading anything by him ever" imprinted in my brain. Now I don't know what said brain was thinking.

Thank you, book club!

- This is great space opera: I loved the scope, the ideas, the very weird aliens (I wish there was a chance to see more of them though).
- The characters were terrific.
- I enjoyed the writing style, the dialogues were especially masterfully done.

I just had a couple of minor complaints:
- There was a certain quality to the writing that made the reading rather slow, I kept getting distracted.
- When it comes to plot, it felt like there was too much build-up and too little resolution.

Anyway, I am very happy I got over my prejudices. I am now ready to read more Culture books :-)

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  Alexandra_book_life | Dec 15, 2023 |
I feel almost churlish complaining about this but like it just... ends? It's a pretty long book and then the ending just comes with no explanation, leaving a decent amount unresolved. It reminds me most of the first book in the series, I think.

The lead up to it is interesting - the drama on a small section of a giant world and how that's connected to the greater alien species and the various machinations etc. And the ending is sort of appropriate and kind of resolves stuff and it's not quite as grim as Consider Phlebas but it's still an anti climax, especially coming after such a long build up. Like (major ending spoilers> did the other aliens contesting the Oct know that the thing was Bad and that's why they tried to warn the prince? if they did, did anyone else know? what was going on there? What was the Thing all about, we get an explanation but it gives the start of a sort of villain speech which SOUNDS like it'd be interesting but gets cut off right at the interesting part. What was up with the ship they were using. Why did the thing want to kill the world god first. Why was there an ENTIRE CITY on the planet apparently dedicated to something that when activated would try and destroy the planet? Who made the city? How did the thing arrive there? How did it get deactivated? How did it survive so long?

I had a LOT of trouble visualising the geography of stuff, particularly the in between the levels stuff - the ending scenes in particular I had no clue what was going on but also the nestworld.

I mean it was good writing and there was some cool stuff (although not as good as some of the others of his I've read imo) but the ending was just a big disappointment to me. Maybe I was expecting too much, I dunno.

I will say I appreciated the glossary/appendix although I didn't notice it until too late, heh. ( )
  tombomp | Oct 31, 2023 |
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[...] it rapidly becomes heart-sinkingly clear that here, the particular society in which the Culture might or might not intervene is one of faux-medieval fantasy fiction. The uniquely hopeless odour of leather, horse-like animals, stale sweat and tortured syntax wafts from the pages, and there is a tedious drizzle of invented proper names. [...] The story's highly intriguing last act could perhaps have been fruitfully expanded into a greater space, and the long setup could have been compressed. Having front-loaded the novel with so much talky scene-setting, Banks might have ended up relying slightly too much on his (and our) favourite gadgets.
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Djan Seriy's discomfiture was being caused by the fact that some of the Culture's more self-congratulatingly clever Minds (not in itself an underpopulated category), patently with far too much time on their platters, had come up with the shiny new theory that the Culture was not just in itself completely spiffing and marvellous and a credit to all concerned, it somehow represented a sort of climactic stage for all civilisations, or at least for all those which chose to avoid heading straight for Sublimation as soon as technologically possible (Sublimation meant your whole civilisation waved farewell to the matter-based universe pretty much altogether, opting for a sort of honorary godhood).

Avoid self-destruction, recognize -- and renounce -- money for the impoverishing ration system it really was, become a bunch of interfering, do-gooding busybodies, resist the siren call of self-promotion that was Subliming and free your conscious machines to do what they did best -- essentially, running everything -- and there you were; millenia of smug self-regard stretched before you, no matter what species you had started from.
Anaplian realised they had got rather rapidly to the point that all such conversations regarding the strategic intentions of the Culture tended to arrive at sooner or later, where it became clear that the issue boiled down to the question What Are The Minds Really Up To? This was always a good question, and it was usually only churls and determinedly diehard cynics who even bothered to point out that it rarely, if ever, arrived paired up with an equally good answer.

The normal, almost ingrained response of people at this point was to metaphorically throw their hands in the air and exclaim that if *that* was what it really all boiled down to then there was no point in even attempting to pursue the issue further because as soon as the motivations, analyses and stratagems of Minds become the defining factor in a matter, all bets were most profoundly off, for the simple reason that any and all efforts to second-guess such infinitely subtle and hideously devious devices were self-evidentally futile.

Anaplian was not so sure about this. It was her suspicion that it suited the purposes of the Minds rather too neatly that people believed this so unquestioningly. Such a reaction represented not so much the honest appraisal of further enquiry as being pointless as an unthinking rejection of the need to enquire at all.
Shoum: "As I say, news osmoses. And where news is concerned, the Culture is of a very low pressure."
Ferbin: "I fail to understand you, ma'am."
Shoum: "They tend to hear everything." [277]
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In a distant-future, highly advanced society of seemingly unlimited technological capability, a crime is committed within a war. For one brother it means a desperate flight, and a search for the one--maybe two--people who could clear his name. For his brother it means a life lived under constant threat of treachery and murder. And for their sister, it means returning to a place she'd thought abandoned forever. Only the sister is not what she once was; Djan Seriy Anaplian has become an agent of the Culture's Special Circumstances section, charged with high-level interference in civilizations throughout the greater galaxy. Concealing her new identity--and her particular set of abilities--might be a dangerous strategy. In the world to which Anaplian returns, nothing is quite as it seems; and determining the appropriate level of interference in someone else's war is never a simple matter.

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