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Klit (1965)

af Frank Herbert

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Serier: Dune (1), Dune: complete chronology (13)

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Science fiction-roman om Paul Atreides, som forlader en barndom i luksus for at modnes i det barske miljø, der hersker på den rå og ugæstfri planet, Klit.
  1. 3110
    Stiftelsen af Isaac Asimov (Patangel, JonTheTerrible, philAbrams)
    JonTheTerrible: The pace of these books are similar as well as the topics they cover: society and government. The science plays only a small role in both books but is present enough to successfully build the worlds in which the characters inhabit.
  2. 153
    Hyperion af Dan Simmons (corporate_clone)
    corporate_clone: It is difficult not to compare Dune and Hyperion, even though both series have major differences in terms of tone, style and philosophy. Those are two long, epic, elaborate and very ambitious sci-fi masterpieces where religion plays a key role. I would highly recommend the fans of one to check out the other.… (mere)
  3. 70
    The Faded Sun Trilogy af C. J. Cherryh (reading_fox)
    reading_fox: Same basic sort of premise - SciFi set on desert worlds inspires the rise of a galactic empire, but very different outcomes!
  4. 82
    Gateway af Frederik Pohl (Vonini)
  5. 85
    Lord Valentine's Castle af Robert Silverberg (corporate_clone)
    corporate_clone: Both books are a subtle blend of science fiction and fantasy while being truly epic stories. Although Dune remains a superior literary achievement in my view, Silverberg's Majipoor series is a credible alternative.
  6. 30
    A Door Into Ocean af Joan Slonczewski (Anonym bruger)
  7. 41
    Grass af Sheri S. Tepper (MyriadBooks)
    MyriadBooks: For the description of the planet.
  8. 31
    Verden er skov af Ursula K. Le Guin (andomck)
    andomck: Ecological science fiction.
  9. 20
    Bright of the Sky af Kay Kenyon (amysisson)
    amysisson: Different in tone, but similar in scope, plus it's also about the lengths to which empires will go to maintain the status quo.
  10. 43
    Singularity Sky af Charles Stross (hyper7)
    hyper7: Singularity Sky could have been set in the Dune universe.
  11. 21
    The Snow Queen af Joan D. Vinge (sandstone78)
    sandstone78: Similar tropes in the form of human computers and a native species capable of granting youth, and the powerful woman trying to breed a special child- The Snow Queen seems on one level a response to Dune, taking many of the same elements and twisting them around, while going in quite different directions in other ways.… (mere)
  12. 10
    Fever Crumb af Philip Reeve (themulhern)
    themulhern: Duncan Idaho is not so unlike Kit Solent
  13. 21
    The King Must Die & The Bull from the Sea af Mary Renault (themulhern)
    themulhern: Young man with special powers and noble blood overthrows the established order through cunning and charisma. In the process he changes his people and then the rot sets in.
  14. 21
    Marrow af Robert Reed (Sandwich76)
  15. 10
    Ringverden af Larry Niven (sturlington)
  16. 11
    The Broken God af David Zindell (whiten06)
    whiten06: Another coming-of-age story with the protagonist gaining god-like knowledge through the use of hallucinogens.
  17. 33
    The Lazarus Effect af Frank Herbert (d_perlo)
    d_perlo: So you have read Frank Herbert's Dune series and want more? Thy The Lazarus Effect, The Jesus Incident, and The Ascension Factor, also by Frank Herbert. This is his take on a water world.
  18. 12
    The Enterprise of Death af Jesse Bullington (Sandwich76)
  19. 23
    Mistborn: The Final Empire af Brandon Sanderson (wvlibrarydude)
    wvlibrarydude: Substance gives power to individual. Lots of political intrigue with interesting characters.
  20. 24
    The Eye of the World af Robert Jordan (LaPhenix)
    LaPhenix: Another messiah story drawing inspiration from similar sources.

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This was a book with some interesting concepts and ideas but also with some glaring flaws, which is why I can’t rate it higher than 2 stars. I saw the movie first and completely fell in love with it and that made me pick up the book, which has affected my enjoyment of said book. I will compare the book and the movie in this review because I can’t help myself. This is also a bit of a rant review, so this might not be for everyone.

I very much liked the idea of spice as the universe’s most valuable commodity used for space travel. The worldbuilding is incredibly interesting and I really love the politics and backstabbing that goes on.

The writing style in book 1 didn’t really work for me. I felt everything was very distant which makes me unable to get attached to the characters, which was a huge difference for me between the book and the movie. In the movie I really loved Duke Leto, in the books I didn’t feel like I got to know him at all, and so his death didn’t matter to me. It felt like the author tried to tell me how great he was, but he didn’t manage to show me what an amazing leader and father he was.

One of the reasons why this is, I believe, had to do with how the author choose to write his POV’s. We jumped so many times between the thoughts of all the characters that I never got to really know any of them. In some chapters, we would switch between people’s thoughts in every paragraph instead of sticking to one person, and this didn’t work for me as a reader. Eventually I learned to ignore this issue, but it did affect my overall enjoyment of both the book and the characters. This did get better in books 2 and 3.

One thing that I felt came completely out of the blue was the info dumping that happened when Liet-Kaynes died where he saw his father’s ghost (the fact that they changed this to a woman in the film was not a problem for me at all, both book and film needs more female representation). This brought me out of the story, and it felt like a desperate attempt from the author to give the reader this information. The way this was done, with the ghost (which was probably a hallucination) didn’t fit into the story in my opinion and brought me completely out of the setting and storytelling, and just felt weird.

The main issue I had in book 3 were the time jumps that I couldn’t follow. At some point we’re told that Alia is two years old and then some chapter later she is suddenly a four-year-old. It also felt like they skipped a lot of key moments because of these time jumps. There was also a two year gap between books 2 and 3 which was really disappointing. We never saw Paul and Jessica being included in the Fremen culture and learning their way of life or the developing relationship between Paul and Chania, they were suddenly together and had a son. And again this goes to the authors choice of writing the story by telling me instead of showing me, and that is a storytelling that doesn’t work for me.

Another thing that disappointed me a little was that we’re never explained what a mentat is. On one hand the fact that everyday concepts in this world, like mentats and shields etc. are never explained is good, because the people in the world already know what it is, but it’s also a two-edged sword because the reader doesn’t know what it is or how it works. Herbert introduce these interesting concepts, but never goes into detail about what they are or how they get to be that way, and I would have liked more information about this in some way. This was one of the reasons I wanted to read the book, because the movie never goes in dept either. I wanted more information but didn’t feel like I got it, I still don’t really understand what a mentat is or how they do what they do. The same with the school that Yeuh was trained at. We get some hints about it, but again it’s taken for granted that the doctors that comes out of this school cannot be corrupted, however that works. Maybe these things will be explained in later books.

Moving on to the Bene Gesserit and how they are utilized. The fact that you have these powerful women who are a part of an organization whose reach seems to be limitless, and they’re being used as broodmares to make this prophet be born (so that they can manipulate and use him), and to preserve other bloodlines, seems good in theory but doesn’t work so well in reality. Yes, they have other functions as well and can be very dangerous and crafty when needed. There is an argument to be had that this, having so much control over these bloodlines and noble houses, is a power in itself, which is true but I would still have liked to see much more of them and their capabilities, instead of them being in the background birthing babies.

Another issue I had was how Paul inherited the women of the man he killed in single combat. She had the choice of becoming either his lover/wife or his slave. He also inherited the man’s children. I know the book was written in 1965, but this notion that women are only valuable in relation to their man doesn’t work very well in 2021, and to be honest, I was kind of disappointed in the Fremen culture at this point. We have this warrior culture that can beat the Emperor’s best soldiers and only the men can fight, whereas the women are commodities that are owned by their men or sent away to the southern parts to rear the children.

Unfortunately, this book was a disappointment for me and I’m not sure if I’ll ever pick up another Dune book again. The movie on the other hand worked well for me. The emotion and storytelling there were done so well, they cut away most of the things I didn’t like about the book and I’m very much looking forward to watching Dune Part II and rewatch Part I. ( )
  fantasyaddict | Nov 28, 2021 |
This escaped my 1970s High School Sci-Fi radar. I saw the movie and then read the book and both were great. He created a universe that I am looking forward to reading in the next few books. Heros quest on a desert planet with some good philosophizing wound w in th enarrative. ( )
  JBreedlove | Nov 20, 2021 |
A little too much fantasy for me. First one is a classic. Second one starts to get a little been-there-done-that. I never bothered with any beyond that. ( )
  dualmon | Nov 17, 2021 |
DNF’d after 100 pages. This book is really easy to read so it has that going for it, but I just don’t like it. I don’t know if it’s fair to judge an 800-page book by its first 100 pages but I just couldn’t get myself to read anymore. The book takes itself too seriously or something and I don’t like the tone of it. Maybe I’ll try again some other time. ( )
  FiraHunter | Nov 14, 2021 |
Pues me ha gustado mucho más de lo que esperaba. Tiene grandeza y originalidad. Su bas es muy simple: la lucha entre los buenos y los malos. Los buenos son la casa de los Atreides, obligados a dejar su húmedo y conforanbe planeta y hacerse cargo del árido Arrakis, tambien llamado Dune. Los malos son sus enemigos, los Harkkonen, que con la ayuda del corrupto emperador y de los mercaderes monopilistas de la Cofradía, pretenden arrebatar Arrakis a los Atreides para así hacerse conb el control de la misteriossa e imprescindible "especia" que solo se produce allí. Cuando los Atreides son derrotados, su heredero paul y su madre Jessica consiguen sobrevivir y llegan a liderar a los aborígenes del planeta, los Fremen, habitantes del deseierto de los que pronto se convertirán en líderes.

El lector también sabe muy pronto dos cosas: el final y que esto es solo el principio de una larga saga. Pero disfruta con la imaginación del autor, con sus alardes de conocimientos lingüísticos, en especial árabes, con sus derivas misticistas (a veces un poco pesadas, eso también es verdad) y con su voluntad de construir todo un mundo. Y se reconoce en esto la herencia de Lewis y de Tolkien, pero con el buien sentido de cambiar completamente el escenario. Y uno se lo ha pasado en grande reconociendo las huellas de esta obra en "La guerra de las galaxias". Una gran obra, más influyente y mucho más divertida de lo que uno creía ( )
  caflores | Nov 13, 2021 |
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Why is Blanch’s influence on Dune worth recognizing? Celebrating Blanch is not a means to discredit Herbert, whose imaginative novel transcends the sum of its influences. But Dune remains massively popular while The Sabres of Paradise languishes in relative obscurity, and renewed public interest in Blanch’s forgotten history would be a welcome development.

Isaac Asimov’s Foundation trilogy was famously inspired by Edward Gibbon’s Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire. J. R. R. Tolkien’s background in medieval languages helped shape the mythology of Middle Earth. Frank Herbert’s Dune is no different, and rediscovering one of the book’s most significant influences is a rewarding experience.
 
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