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Thus Spoke Zarathustra (Penguin Classics) (original 1885; udgave 1974)

af Friedrich Nietzsche, R. J. Hollingdale (Oversætter)

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Titel:Thus Spoke Zarathustra (Penguin Classics)
Forfattere:Friedrich Nietzsche
Andre forfattere:R. J. Hollingdale (Oversætter)
Info:Penguin (1974), Kindle Edition, 354 pages
Samlinger:Room 253 Reference
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Således talte Zarathustra af Friedrich Nietzsche (Author) (1885)

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    Antikrist af Friedrich Nietzsche (YagamiLight)
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    The elements of metaphysics : being a guide for lectures and private use af Paul Deussen (galacticus)
    galacticus: Deussen was a lifelong friend of Nietzsche. They were students at Gymnasium; both earned Philology degrees; both became professors; but more importantly, both were students of Schopenhauer.
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    Sartor Resartus and On Heroes and Hero Worship af Thomas Carlyle (slickdpdx)
    slickdpdx: It is as if Carlyle willed Nietzsche into being.
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The philosophy within the book make it something to read and consider for your own life. ( )
  Kurt.Rocourt | Jun 14, 2021 |
Após dez anos de isolamento na montanha, Zaratustra decide voltar ao convívio dos homens, a fim de passar adiante o fruto de sua contemplação e anunciar a vinda do Übermensch, ou super-homem. A tarefa do profeta, contudo, será tortuosa, pois poucos são os eleitos e muitos os seus inimigos. Assim falou Zaratustra é um romance filosófico em que Nietzsche toma o nome do sábio persa criador do Zoroastrismo para esmiuçar algumas das questões fundamentais de sua obra, tais como a autossuperação e a necessidade de se libertar de qualquer força que iniba ou limite a vida e a vontade do indivíduo. Nietzsche é tão influente como controverso. Sua crítica à moral e aos valores judaico-cristãos ― um dos aspectos mais marcantes de sua obra ― não raro desperta a hostilidade de leitores e estudiosos. Contudo, suas contribuições marcaram o pensamento ocidental e são leitura obrigatória para qualquer interessado em filosofia. ( )
  BolideBooks | May 13, 2021 |
"I am a railing beside the stream: he who can grasp me, let him grasp me! I am not, however, your crutch. Thus spoke Zarathustra." (pg. 67)

This is my first real encounter with Nietzsche (after a slight collection of his aphorisms a few years ago), and a strange but compelling one. Thus Spoke Zarathustra is a peculiar mix of philosophy and narrative and poetry, and the reader tries to grasp it like wild horses. You don't know which hat to put on: Your rational one to deal with the philosophy? Your literary one to deal with the narrative? Or do you just open up and see what concepts rest with your poetic soul?

Regardless of which approach you take as you try to navigate this mercurial book, you soon find that Nietzsche's ideas are worth contending with. He's unfairly maligned nowadays; in part for his eccentric and animated writing, which stands in contrast to the more sober conventions of philosophy, and in part for his perceived baggage. His concepts of nihilism, the Ubermensch and the 'will to power' were all corrupted by the Nazis, a fact which is particularly unfortunate when you consider that Nietzsche personally opposed the sort of anti-Semitism and militarism that they used to leech onto his ideas.

Nevertheless, this is dangerous thought, and when reading it you can easily see where and how the Nazis appropriated and corrupted it. But, with an open and honest read, you can also just as easily see how superior and distinct Nietzsche's real ideas were. Not only in some telling specifics ("the state is the coldest of all cold monsters" (pg. 75)), but in the general warp and weft of the text. He acknowledges the danger in the philosophy as essentially the danger in man: "Now it is with men as with this tree. The more it wants to rise into the heights and the light, the more determinedly do its roots strive earthwards, downwards, into the darkness, into the depths – into evil" (pg. 69). His famous diagnosis of the death of God is expanded upon in this book, and his remedy is the eventual rise of an Ubermensch, a hyper-individualistic 'overman' or 'superman', who will break the ossified order of societal values and create his own. If this seems too romantic or bombastic to a cynical modern reader, it must be qualified that Nietzsche sees it as a torrid struggle of ego-death and rebirth ("man is a bridge and not a goal" (pg. 215)) rather than a glorious charge.

Regardless of whether you come to agree with them, Nietzsche's ideas here are spectacular and stimulating. Sometimes you don't necessarily want to wrangle these wild horses, but just watch them buck majestically. But even more than its ideas, Thus Spoke Zarathustra is provocative in its writing. The book is a forceful jeremiad, aping the tones of the Bible to produce a genuinely entertaining display of thought. In contrast to the sober conventional philosophy I mentioned above, Nietzsche is surprisingly readable. Lines such as "we have made weary fire itself. All our wells have dried up, even the sea has receded" (pg. 156) carry power on a poetic level, even if the reader's philosophical thoughts may stray.

It does get a bit overblown at times, and the ending didn't convince me of Nietzsche's goal. I lost the thread of argument, and Zarathustra's final revelatory change seemed abrupt. But by that point, it didn't matter; I was enjoying Nietzsche's singular blend of philosophised storytelling too much. It's a novel approach to getting one's ideas across, and it's a shame we don't seem to have a place for writing like this anymore.

Nietzsche's 'death of God' diagnosis of the modern world was on the nose, but in doing so he also diagnosed his own eclipse. "Everything speaks, everything is unheard. One may ring in one's wisdom with bells – the shopkeeper in the market-place will out-ring it with pennies... Nothing falls any longer into deep wells" (pp203-4). We're not approaching a Nietzschean overman anymore (if indeed we ever were). Instead, writers this bold have been driven to extinction. There are higher mountains buried under ocean than Everest or any other to be found on land. But when Nietzsche writes that Zarathustra is sitting upon "high masts of knowledge", "a little light, to be sure, but yet a great comfort to castaway sailors and the shipwrecked" (pg. 213), there may be some consolation to be drawn. The petty sea will swallow many, but perhaps some readers will continue to land on these shores. ( )
2 stem MikeFutcher | May 7, 2021 |
Regardless of one's opinion of Nietzsche or his philosophical system (if he truly can be said to have one; at least a coherent one), this is a great piece of literature. As translator R. J. Hollingdale says in his introduction, Nietzsche "feels his thoughts" (12). This inseparable coupling of emotion and intellect (chaos?) give birth to the "dancing star" that is Nietzsche's writing. I remember when I went from reading Plato and Aristotle and Hume and Reid and Kant to reading my first bit of Nietzsche--I was floored that philosophy could be written in such a dazzling way, even if I cannot totally get on board with all the iconoclasticism present in his works. In this book as in others, one gets a sense of the intensity and urgency with which Nietzsche wants to take humanity beyond its hitherto perceived limits. He takes pains to trace our values and beliefs back to, "simply," a will to power. And then he beckons is to hardness this innate will to power and march into the metamorphosis of the Übermensch (translated as Superman in this edition). ( )
  chrisvia | Apr 29, 2021 |
I did not really enjoy this book. I am unsure whether I get the whole of his philosophy but the parts I did get mostly did not appeal to me. This is not because of religious reasons (I am not religious), I am just not convinced that mankind or indeed any single person would be served well by following this philosophy of radical self actualisation and assertiveness. I am glad I did not read this as a teen/young adult because I fear it might have made me a more unpleasant, less compassionate and ultimately unhappier person (or, to be frank, more of an asshole) than I am today.

I did enjoy some of the prose and some of the passages at least made me think, but I'm also glad it's over and I don't think I will be returning to Nietzsche any time soon. ( )
  SpookyFM | Jan 18, 2021 |
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