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Paradise (Vintage International) af Toni…

Paradise (Vintage International) (original 1997; udgave 2014)

af Toni Morrison (Forfatter)

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Roman fra Oklahoma i midten af 1970erne.
Titel:Paradise (Vintage International)
Forfattere:Toni Morrison (Forfatter)
Info:Vintage (2014), Edition: Reprint, 336 pages
Samlinger:Dit bibliotek

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When Paradise was released in 1997, it was the first new Toni Morrison novel since I had learned about her and started reading all of her books. I got it early on and struggled with it and had to return it to the library after only reading a small part. I checked it out again but enough time had passed that I had to start over again and I ended up still not being able to finish it. To my shame, I've finally read all of Paradise. It's still a book I struggle with, featuring a lot of characters and overlapping plots.

The story takes place in Ruby, and all-Black town in Oklahoma where the prominent men of town take up arms against the women in an abandoned convent on the outskirts of town. The men treat the convent as if it were a brothel or a coven corrupting the morals in town. In fact, it is a safe place for women who are escaping abuse, exclusion, and personal tragedies, mainly brought on by the patriarchy of the town and discrimination against light-skin Black people The narrative interweaves the personal stories of women who lived and died at the convent with the history of the town.

As I've noted, I found this to be a complex book. It is also violent and disturbing which makes it hard for me to read. It's nonetheless a poetic work with Morrison's typical honesty and compassion toward her characters. But it is not going to be a favorite of mine among her novels. ( )
  Othemts | May 11, 2021 |
This is a dense read that does not give up its secrets quickly.

On the surface it’s the story of a group of nine former slave families, freed at the end of the Civil War, searched for a place to settle. When they attempted to join one community of former slaves, they were told they were too black and too poor. They traveled onward and settled in Oklahoma. This is the story of the town they founded and the people who lived there.

They settled near a bootlegger/racketeer’s pleasure palace. Eventually, the pleasure palace was taken over by an order of Catholic nuns as a school for Indian girls. But the Indian school fades out, as does the order of nuns. It becomes home to a few wayward girls who have found their way there by accident, or perhaps as if they were drawn there.

It’s a story of racism, classism, colorism, and religion – of men and women in conflict; of supernatural haunting of the old Convent as well as an elderly Brazilian woman who can enter people’s souls and prolong life. It’s a story of old conflicts and hurts bubbling forth and a community founded on the freedom of a newly freed people becoming a very unfree community.

Even after reading several online commentaries on this novel, I was often at a loss. One professor who has taught it several times, said he always starts out by making a crib sheet of names and relationships. When I read it again, I will do so.

Because,having finished reading I feel that I need to read it again -probably multiple times. But for now, I will set it aside and let it soak. ( )
  streamsong | Mar 12, 2021 |
from the group read comments in 75 Book Challenge for 2021:
Great discussion. Sorry I wasn't able to start the book sooner, and add my two cents as the thread went on. I finished about an hour ago, and I'm relieved that others found it confusing, not just me!

I found the writing quite powerful, the characters as well, although I wish I had Pat's genealogy to guide me! Next time I read it, I will at least keep track of who married whom and which children belonged to which family.

As for the reality of the women at the Convent, I never doubted it. How their bodies disappeared is certainly a mystery, as is (to me) that door or window that Richard and Anna sense in the garden. I think Mavis might be alive at the end - when her daughter embraces her she winces - but maybe not. I think Pallas is certainly dead, as is her baby, because she doesn't answer or look at her mother later when she comes back for her shoes, carrying the baby. I don't know if Lone was able to employ her power to restore any of them, but it's a possibility.

The story of exclusive communities is very old, of course, and we still carry that in some parts of our society today. It's meant as a bulwark against change and contamination, but without change thoughts and habits ossify. The nine families recoil from the hurt of exclusion (no room at the inn for them) into themselves. I was a little surprised that the young men of the latter generation went off to war - so little mention was made of the government I thought the town was itself invisible. But of course, once the boys see the realities of the outside world, it's harder to keep new ideas out. And then the very personal damage that can be caused by exclusion becomes overt.

Much more to be said, if I can think of it. This book certainly bears careful rereading, but I don't expect that to explain things.

I'll go check other's posts on their own threads now. I've been passing them by until I'd finished my own read. ( )
  ffortsa | Feb 23, 2021 |
A difficult and disturbing novel about human nature. While I sense its power, and found certain passages absolutely wonderful, I didn't fall in love with the book. Nearly 200 pages into it, I was still trying to sort out the characters and their relationships. I don't object to complexity and often embrace it, but I found parts of the first half of this book were just too obtuse. It may have been partly that I never sat down and immersed myself in the reading for long enough to get caught up in it, but that's sort of a "chicken or egg" situation. A book can MAKE me do that and this one didn't. Having said all that, I expect that I'll re-read Paradise at some point. I'm not ready to devote any more of my limited reading time to this book immediately, but I really wish our library had the audiobook on CD so I could listen to it in the car right away. I think that would probably increase my rating from 3 1/2 to 4 at least. I know that I have not got everything there is to get from this book, and I'm not through with it. Some books simply require a second go.
Reviewed in 2011 ( )
  laytonwoman3rd | Feb 22, 2021 |
Ik weet niet goed wat ik van dit boek moet denken. Het is zeker een intrigerend boek, maar niet makkelijk te lezen. Toni Morrison begint met het einde van het verhaal en eindigt daar ook weer mee. Daartussen in beschrijft ze de geschiedenis van een kleine stad/dorp in Minnesota. Het stadje wordt uitsluitend bevolkt door zwarte families, 9 in totaal. Met alle kinderen en kleinkinderen toch een behoorlijke groep. Een paar kilometer buiten het dorp staat een gebouw dat het 'Klooster' wordt genoemd. Dat is het vroeger ook geweest maar nu wordt het bewoond door een vijftal vrouwen. Connie (Consolata), Mavis, Gigi (Grace), Seneca en Pallas. Connie woont daar permanent, maar de rest komt er wonen, gaat weer weg, maar keren altijd weer terug. Het boek beschrijft de achtergronden van de vijf vrouwen en de redenen waarom ze in het Klooster terecht zijn gekomen.
In het dorp heerst harmonie maar dat slaat allemaal om als de jongste generatie niet meer tevreden is met de situatie en de ouderen de vrouwen uit het Klooster daar de schuld van geven. De ouderen willen de vrouwen wegjagen maar dat loopt vreselijk uit de hand.
Doordat je maar moet gissen wanneer welk deel van de beschreven periodes plaatsvinden is het in het begin best lastig om er een samenhangend verhaal van te maken. Gelukkig lukt dat wel.
Dit geeft, volgens mij, wel een tijdsbeeld van Amerika weer. ( )
  connie53 | Feb 20, 2021 |
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