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A Seperate Reality: Further Conversations with Don Juan (udgave 1972)

af Carlos Castaneda

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Afslutningen nærmer sig nu af forfatterens første læretid hos de mexicanske Yaqui-indianeres gamle troldmand Don Juan, der bl.a. udøver sin trolddomskunst ved hjælp af euforiserende stoffer.
Medlem:ErikaRS
Titel:A Seperate Reality: Further Conversations with Don Juan
Forfattere:Carlos Castaneda
Info:Pocket Books New York (1972), Mass Market Paperback
Samlinger:Dit bibliotek, Læser for øjeblikket
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Un antropólogo narra la primera etapa del aprendizaje que lo convertirá en "hombre de conocimiento" bajo la guía de un brujo de la tribu "yaqui". Libro segundo
  Chule | Apr 6, 2020 |
I read a biography (The life and teachings of Carlos Castaneda) of Castaneda previously and was rather put off about him, since it turned out he was by no means a pleasant character. I thus did not plan to read any more of his books. But then I found this one and thought I would try it.

I didn’t find it as good as some of the other books. Don Juan, the Yaqui Indian who was training Carlos to be a sorcerer, or whatever, kept getting him to do such strange, complicated, and, according to what Don Juan said, deadly dangerous, things that it was difficult to find rhyme or reason in them.

And Carlos did not seem to get anything out of it at all.

Previously, Carlos was wanting information about plants, especially peyote, which is a hallucinogenic cactus.

Carlos was a student of anthropology interested in medicinal plants but was also extremely curious about Don Juan. His eyes shone “with a light of their own”.

They became friends. But Carlos was interested in “academic knowledge that transcends experience” whereas Don Juan talked about direct knowledge of the world.

Don Juan tells Carlos he must “feel everything, otherwise the world loses its sense”.

Don Juan tells him that Carlos shuts off the world around him and clings to his arguments: therefore all he has are problems.

Don Juan calls peyote “Mescalito” and said Mescalito taught “the right way of life”, He regarded jimson weed and the mushrooms as powers of a different sort. He called them “allies” and said a sorcerer “drew his strength from manipulating an ally”. The power contained in the mushroom was Don Juan’s personal ally, and he called it “smoke” or “little smoke”.

Carlos began to lose the certainty that “the reality of everyday life is something we can take for granted”.

Don Juan’s premise was that a light, amenable disposition was needed in order to understand the impact and strangeness of the knowledge he was teaching Carlos.

“To be a man of knowledge one needs to be light and fluid.”

Don Juan tried to teach Carlos to “see”. “Looking” was the ordinary way of perceiving the world, while “seeing” entailed a complex process by which a man of knowledge perceives the “essence” of the things of the world.

Smoking the mixture was indispensable for “seeing”.

Part One of the book is called “The Preliminaries of Seeing” and Part Two “The Task of Seeing”.

Don Juan tells Carlos that “the little smoke” will help him to “see” men as fibres of light.

Don Juan had a sense of drama, and humour.

Many things Don Juan says seem cryptic. Carlos keeps asking him to explain what he means. Don Juan tells about “controlled folly”.

Nothing one does is important. “Controlled folly” is very much like “seeing”; it is something you cannot think about.

In order to become a man of knowledge one must be a warrior. “One must strive without giving up --- until one “sees”., only to realize then that nothing matters.”

He records everything that occurs in great detail, including the exact dates on which they occur. He describes everything accurately, pedantically.

I found the book absolutely readable, though didn’t feel I really understood everything, perhaps nothing. Don Juan’s world was a different one from ours and his knowledge a different sort of knowledge.

But if the world of sorcery. “seeing” and becoming a man of knowledge interest you, then read the book. I’m not sure, but I think it was Castaneda’s second book. Happy reading! ( )
  IonaS | Dec 3, 2019 |
Second book in the series of Don Juan books, published by Simon & Schuster rather than UCB Press. First Edition, First Printing ( )
  atufft | Jul 6, 2019 |
En "Una realidad aparte", su segundo libro, Castaneda cuenta cómo en 1968, regresó a don Juan para reanudar con renovada determinación el proceso iniciático que había interrumpido abruptamente. Al dejar ir todas las defensas y abandonarse por completo a esta fascinante experiencia, aprende la diferencia fundamental entre "ver" y "mirar": mientras que "mirar" se refiere a la forma habitual en que estamos acostumbrados a percibir la realidad, "ver" implica una Complejo en virtud del cual podemos llegar a conocer la esencia de las cosas, entrando en contacto con la energía que fluye constantemente en el universo.
El "encuentro del hombre con el infinito", que es el corazón de la "cognición chamánica", puede tener lugar en parte con el uso ritual de plantas sagradas y alucinógenas, pero sobre todo implica un laborioso viaje de crecimiento que la fuerza de voluntad y la subversión de los criterios racionales con los que estamos acostumbrados a leer el mundo.
  icaro589 | Oct 28, 2018 |
In retrospect my existence seemed to lack some dimensions before learning to know don Juan, whose casual straddling of parallel realities really is one of its kind. I don't care about the discussion as to how literally the author's accounts are to be taken, whether or not they're even related to Yaqui Indians – there's something so reassuring and honest about this brujo that I can't but take him seriously. As he rolls out his mat in his simple house, puts his hands behind his neck and falls asleep, I truly feel my (bohemian?) materialism is poverty. He's so rich with nothing, he doesn't even need books!
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