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1januaryw
Ishmael
The Story of B
My Ishmael
I read Ishmael and I am in the miffle of The Story of B. Does anyone out there want to talk about Daniel Quinn's philosophy?
The Story of B
My Ishmael
I read Ishmael and I am in the miffle of The Story of B. Does anyone out there want to talk about Daniel Quinn's philosophy?
2FeralPawn
Hi,
I've read almost all of Daniel Quinn's books.
In my opinion his best two by far are Ishmael and The Story of B. They are where he has the most to say and the subsequent books, while still thought provoking, pale in comparison.
After reading Quinn I would strongly suggest reading Derrick Jensen's non-fiction works. Starting with A Language Older Than Words and following that up with The Culture of Make Believe before working your way up to his most recent work.
I'm more than happy to talk about anything about Quinn's work. In fact with people I know his works are second only to Jensen in terms of being "life changing".
Cheers.
I've read almost all of Daniel Quinn's books.
In my opinion his best two by far are Ishmael and The Story of B. They are where he has the most to say and the subsequent books, while still thought provoking, pale in comparison.
After reading Quinn I would strongly suggest reading Derrick Jensen's non-fiction works. Starting with A Language Older Than Words and following that up with The Culture of Make Believe before working your way up to his most recent work.
I'm more than happy to talk about anything about Quinn's work. In fact with people I know his works are second only to Jensen in terms of being "life changing".
Cheers.
3januaryw
Thank you for suggesting Derrick Jensen, I will look him up.
His books have changed my perspective on things,but I can't say that my life is much different for having read them. What are the practical implications of his writing?
His books have changed my perspective on things,but I can't say that my life is much different for having read them. What are the practical implications of his writing?
4FeralPawn
I guess, as with most things, the practical implications of his writing depends on the individual's interpretation.
I have friends who have made radical life changes at least partially influenced by Quinn and other writers like him.
Some have thrown in their corporate jobs and are trying to recapture the 'hunter gatherer' experience as much as possible in a practical way - living as self sufficiently as they can.
Others claim to simply view the world in a different way, maintaining their exisiting lives but feeling more at home within them.
Others, of course, simply think about the book for a few days or weeks then resume life as normal.
Essentially what I am referring to is not directly Quinn's work but more broadly the critique of civilization - of which his works are considered a part (or at least an interpretation of).
Realistically Quinn's work alone is unlikely to result in major life changes. What usually happens is that people are often 'woken up' to the extent that they want to enquire more deeply and are led on to the likes of Derrick Jensen, Chellis Glendinning, etc.
One thing online you may wish to read is by anthropologist Marshal Sahlins, an essay titled The Original Affluent Society - http://www.primitivism.com/original-affluent.htm
Derrick Jensen is a brilliant writer whose books are incredibly hard to put down. He's the perfect author to see if any of this is 'life changing'. Many people will start but will quickly give up reading - not due to the quality of the writing but because the subject too deeply challenges their world view.
I have friends who have made radical life changes at least partially influenced by Quinn and other writers like him.
Some have thrown in their corporate jobs and are trying to recapture the 'hunter gatherer' experience as much as possible in a practical way - living as self sufficiently as they can.
Others claim to simply view the world in a different way, maintaining their exisiting lives but feeling more at home within them.
Others, of course, simply think about the book for a few days or weeks then resume life as normal.
Essentially what I am referring to is not directly Quinn's work but more broadly the critique of civilization - of which his works are considered a part (or at least an interpretation of).
Realistically Quinn's work alone is unlikely to result in major life changes. What usually happens is that people are often 'woken up' to the extent that they want to enquire more deeply and are led on to the likes of Derrick Jensen, Chellis Glendinning, etc.
One thing online you may wish to read is by anthropologist Marshal Sahlins, an essay titled The Original Affluent Society - http://www.primitivism.com/original-affluent.htm
Derrick Jensen is a brilliant writer whose books are incredibly hard to put down. He's the perfect author to see if any of this is 'life changing'. Many people will start but will quickly give up reading - not due to the quality of the writing but because the subject too deeply challenges their world view.
5Jesse_wiedinmyer
You might like something like Last Hours of Ancient Sunlight.
6teewillis1981
That book changed my world so much that I decided that I had to talk to Daniel Quinn himself. I emailed him and he agreed to speak with me on the phone. I would love to speak with you about his philosophy.
7januaryw
You spoke to him directly! Wow! What did you learn by speaking to him that you did not know from reading his work?
8inkdrinker
I loved Quinn's books, but I found them disheartening and overwhelming. What he really seems to saying is that we as a world have to completely change the way we live and that seems very unlikely. His books almost made me feel doomed.
