Anti-White Pogrom in South Africa

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Anti-White Pogrom in South Africa

1Earthling1
jul 14, 2021, 6:04 pm

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2John5918
jul 15, 2021, 10:13 am

Just for the record, some notes from a mainstream media source on South Africa Today, the website referenced in >1 Earthling1:

The expats behind right-wing propaganda website (news 24)

The owners of a controversial website at the centre of disseminating right wing propaganda on social media have been unearthed as South African expats living in Thailand.

The father-and-son pair of Carel, 54, and Johan Frylinck, 25, are the administrators of South Africa Today – an aggregator website that republishes negative articles by the Freedom Front Plus, AfriForum, Front Nasionaal and other local and international websites and organisations promoting white victimhood in South Africa. The website specialises in articles focusing on farm attacks, crime and land expropriation. There has been an increase in right wing propaganda on digital platforms in recent months...

The most prolific "journalist" on the site is controversial figure Laura Oneale... Oneale was the author responsible for "breaking" the fake news that former president Nelson Mandela had died in June 2013, six months before his actual passing in December that year. At the time, she alleged a cover-up by the South African government was keeping the former statesman's death a secret. She was later forced to backtrack on her story when Mandela was discharged from hospital...

3Earthling1
jul 15, 2021, 10:58 am

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4Limelite
jul 15, 2021, 7:00 pm

Fake news! Right wing conspiracy to frame uprising as genocide. Witch hunt by poor tired disgruntled white bigots to make the black South Africans seem as bad as the Boers were. Where are the concentration camps? Where are the propaganda campaigns to make us believe the non-black South Africans are possessed by devils, or busy hosting dinner parties where they eat children?

Sounds like more of a case of mass PTSD acting out revenge and dolling out retribution for what whites actually did to blacks during apartheid than a "pogrom."

Sad! Fails bigly. Not the best words.

5John5918
jul 16, 2021, 1:59 am

South Africa Zuma riots: Fact-checking claims about the protests (BBC)

An old video claiming to show current unrest... A video showing a confrontation between a group of black men and white men has attracted more than 300,000 views on Twitter, and purports to show part of the current unrest. The tweet, posted on 13 July, says: "White farmers in #South Africa get whipped and have their cars stolen as the country descends into mass-looting frenzy"... The Twitter account is based in Poland, and has a handle associated with online conspiracy theory activity, and posts anti-immigrant and white nationalist content. Also, the video in question was actually circulating before the rioting started around 9 July. There are reports online from 25 June featuring the same video, which news stories on independent blogs and sites claimed was about a pay dispute...

6Earthling1
jul 16, 2021, 1:18 pm

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7Earthling1
jul 16, 2021, 1:19 pm

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8Earthling1
jul 16, 2021, 1:20 pm

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9Earthling1
jul 16, 2021, 1:20 pm

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10Earthling1
jul 16, 2021, 1:22 pm

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11Earthling1
jul 16, 2021, 1:23 pm

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12prosfilaes
jul 16, 2021, 9:44 pm

>10 Earthling1: Oh look, a more reliable source that dismisses your claims of an anti-White pogrom.

13John5918
jul 17, 2021, 12:28 am

South Africa Zuma riots: What's behind the violence and looting? (BBC)

An analysis of the current riots suggesting it is a result of divisions within the ruling ANC, not an "anti-white pogrom".

14Earthling1
jul 17, 2021, 9:20 am

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15John5918
jul 17, 2021, 9:36 am

>14 Earthling1:

Also based on my own experience of living in South Africa. In other threads you seem to think that nobody outside the USA is qualified to have an opinion on anything in the USA. Do you live in South Africa? Have you ever done so?

16Limelite
jul 17, 2021, 2:47 pm

When idols come crashing down and myths splinter, cult believers are left to thrash around in a soundproof vacuum because their confirmational echo chamber isn't echoing anymore. In some cases, I suppose, it causes them to fall off the wagon under another influence.

You can imagine the agonies they're suffering when after 6 months of wasted time the Qs in AZ found no systemic cheating, no duplicate voting, and barely a handful of errors on the ballots they examined over and over. Even the thickest headed MAGrats must realize they're no more than dupes and suckers taken in by a con man and a ship of fools.

17Earthling1
jul 18, 2021, 1:09 pm

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18Limelite
jul 18, 2021, 1:17 pm

'Walking brain dead' is probably more accurate. But it's so offensive.

19John5918
jul 20, 2021, 2:52 pm

If South Africa’s Violence “masterminded”, It is for “own self-preservation”: Archbishop (ACI Africa)

If the recent violent protests and attacks in South Africa were masterminded, the motivation was driven by selfishness and efforts toward “self-preservation”, a Catholic Archbishop in the country has said. In his Sunday, July 18 Homily, Archbishop Stephen Brislin said the violence witnessed in the KwaZulu-Natal and Gauteng Provinces among other parts of the country were detrimental to the nation’s “fragile democracy” and those who might have masterminded “must be called to account”.

“If there are those who masterminded it, they, more than all the others who have been involved, are responsible for doing enormous damage to our fragile democracy and economy,” Archbishop Brislin said... “If there are such people who have planned and executed this, they have acted selfishly presumably for their own self-preservation, with no regard for the good of the country and its people. They particularly must be called to account and punished appropriately for their actions”...

20John5918
aug 1, 2021, 3:09 am

Recent Violent Protests in South Africa Had “groundswell of concerned people”: Archbishop (ACI Africa)

While the recent violent protests in South Africa were generally characterized by vandalism, looting, injuries and loss of human lives, there were people who showed genuine goodness and concern for others, a South African Archbishop has said in a prayerful reflection. In his Wednesday, July 28 Prayer and Reflection, Archbishop Stephen Brislin who was looking back at the recent violent protests in South Africa alongside challenges occasioned by COVID-19 pandemic acknowledges with appreciation the “groundswell of concerned and good people.”

“Even in the dreadful looting and destruction that we witnessed recently in South Africa, there followed an outpouring of goodness as people turned out to clean up, to guard sensitive areas and to seek answers for and understanding of what had taken place,” Archbishop Brislin says. The South African Archbishop adds, “There has been a groundswell of concerned and good people calling for root causes to be identified and addressed, for the injustices of the inequality and poverty of our country to be recognized... We may think that these signs are small in comparison, that they are, by and large, spoken about by mostly powerless people, but the signs – like the miracles of Jesus – indicate something far greater at work,” he says, underscoring the good values a section of South Africans brought forth during the recent violent protests...