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Spam reporting thread #73

1lilithcat
jan 4, 8:40am

PROCEDURES FOR REPORTING SPAM

Distinguish between the following, and flag the highest level of the violation:

-- Type 1: Irredeemable commercial spam: make sure to flag the member's profile, as well as the spammy activity. This type includes things selling strollers, pharmaceuticals, live-streaming sports games, porn, and/or trying to create traffic/links to sites for such things. Sufficient profile flags will automatically result in temporary suspension and deletion of the member's activity, so use your profile-flagging powers wisely and carefully.

-- Type 2: Teachable moments: DO NOT flag the member's profile, but DO flag the violating activity (e.g. self-promotional Talk post, group, or local venue). This type includes promotional activity that violates the Terms of Service (TOS), but where the member is potentially redeemable, e.g. overzealous authors, overzealous publishers, or other members with small TOS violations but who are otherwise using the site legitimately. These cases should be reported to staff (by sending a message or email to staff and/or or posting on this thread), so the member can be taught how to use the site.

Specific procedures:
-- Overzealous authors or publishers (these fall under type 2): do NOT flag the member's profile. Report to staff here or privately. You can also send the member a polite message pointing them to the terms, mentioning the "no promoting" language, and pointing them to the Do's and Don't page for authors: http://www.librarything.com/about_authors.php
-- Suspected sock-puppetry to promote a book, write fake reviews, and/or stack ratings: do not flag the profile, but report to staff here or by message, so staff can investigate. This is a serious violation for which members can be permanently banned.
-- Profile flags for commercial spammers only (type 1): On the member's profile page, click on the "report for spam" link, then follow instructions to flag the member. Again, this is only for commercial spam, not for "overzealous" authors, publishers, or booksellers, which should be reported to staff instead. See Talk post: http://www.librarything.com/topic/85810
-- Spam or promotional posts in a Talk topic (type 1 or 2): flag the post as an abuse of the terms of service.
-- Spam or promotional groups (types 1 and 2): flag new groups using the "flag this group" link.
-- Spam lists: report in this thread, and flag the member if it's commercial spam.
-- Spam works (type 1 spam): flag the work as spam on the work's editions page, and then vote on proposed work spam. Make sure to read the guidelines before proposing or voting, especially for what is not spam. Voting page: http://www.librarything.com/spam_works.php
-- Spam in a review (type 1), or an explicitly promotional review (type 2): flag the review as an abuse of the TOS, using the red flag.
-- Spam or promotion in "published reviews," or other CK fields (type 1 or 2): post here and/or delete.
-- Spam or egregious promotion/advertising in venues or events (type 1 or 2): post here and/or delete. Note that authors are permitted to add events for their books.
-- Spam in book links / quick links: post here and/or edit to remove spam.
-- Spam author names listed on a work: No current procedure. Tim has asked us not to change CK to indicate spammers, and not to combine spam authors together.
-- Not sure if it's spam? Post here, and explain why.

Please note that Tim has asked us not to use either CK or the combining system (whether works or authors) for spam fighting.

For more information see these wiki pages:
Procedures for flagging and reporting spam: https://wiki.librarything.com/index.php/Spam
Spam works, guidelines for flagging and voting: http://www.librarything.com/wiki/index.php/HelpThing:Spam_works

(A copy of these guidelines, for pasting in new threads, can be found here or at the top of previous threads.)

2lilithcat
Redigeret: jan 5, 4:55pm

32wonderY
jan 7, 1:07pm

Review by author encouraging sales; violates TOS

http://www.librarything.com/work/25930198/reviews/

4gilroy
jan 7, 2:06pm

>3 2wonderY: The thread already has both posts flagged, but posting here for the sake of tracking purposes:
https://www.librarything.com/topic/328495

And Profile (Already noted, do not flag) https://www.librarything.com/profile/tom9191

6MarthaJeanne
Redigeret: jan 12, 3:45am

Topic is https://www.librarything.com/topic/326633#7383627

Message and profile gone now.

7gilroy
jan 14, 5:19am

Enthusiastic Author:
https://www.librarything.com/topic/305867#7311265

Warned once before, but not flagging profile

8MarthaJeanne
Redigeret: jan 14, 5:26am

>7 gilroy: He's forgotten since October?

BTW, message 7 in that topic is very bad spam.
https://www.librarything.com/profile/Bookie-Books is offering reviews etc. for sale.

9gilroy
jan 14, 7:31pm

>8 MarthaJeanne: No, I was feeling generous when I posted that this morning. Also I think he got spam flagged off and brought back the last time.

12lilithcat
feb 1, 11:09am

>11 MarthaJeanne:

At least he's asking if it's okay.

13MarthaJeanne
feb 1, 12:22pm

In theory yes, but the link is in there.

142wonderY
feb 1, 12:42pm

I wrote him a more complete message.

17karenb
feb 5, 11:03pm

>16 Taphophile13: ETA she delete the message

22MarthaJeanne
feb 8, 2:31am

23MarthaJeanne
Redigeret: feb 12, 3:50pm

252wonderY
Redigeret: feb 16, 8:34am

>24 2wonderY: And six other threads - Gone.

28SandraArdnas
feb 19, 11:11am

>27 gilroy: That group can't be viewed without joining

29Taphophile13
feb 19, 11:17am

>27 gilroy:, >28 SandraArdnas: Group has been flagged and user has been removed.

302wonderY
feb 19, 11:18am

>27 gilroy: I can’t even see who admins that group. Did you want the group flagged? 351 messages and 351 topics - seems a very exclusive group.

31gilroy
feb 19, 11:27am

>30 2wonderY: The group was flagged out of existence before I could post the rest of the information. It had 1 user, 1 post.

33MarthaJeanne
feb 22, 5:42am

>32 karenb: Gone now.

37lilithcat
feb 24, 10:21pm

>36 karenb:

Gone now.

41karenb
mar 2, 4:19am

>40 2wonderY: left a comment

43MarthaJeanne
mar 4, 9:08am

>42 haydninvienna: And both are gone.

44SandraArdnas
Redigeret: mar 5, 4:30pm

https://www.librarything.com/topic/330350

author advertising book

Edit: was warned before. I didn't flag the profile nevertheless

ETA: Gone already

46Cecrow
mar 6, 10:29pm

This overzealous author just spammed my neat-and-tidy challenge thread:
https://www.librarything.com/profile/thaddeud
see https://www.librarything.com/topic/133916#7445167

48MarthaJeanne
Redigeret: mar 7, 2:04am

>46 Cecrow: Messages are gone. After seeing the one message and his entry of the book I looked up the URL. My goodness! He does not seem to write standard English.

I put a comment on his profile.

512wonderY
mar 10, 9:20am

All works have met the threshold and are suppressed. I think staff need to take down the profile though.

52lilithcat
mar 10, 9:39am

>51 2wonderY:

Profile is gone.

57MarthaJeanne
mar 19, 5:42pm

>56 karenb: in general I don't flag profiles if there is no other advertising, but for some things I'm willing to make exceptions.

Gone.

58gilroy
mar 22, 5:53am

https://www.librarything.com/topic/330772
Enthusiastic Author

https://www.librarything.com/profile/EnochianFabler (Do NOT flag. Message already on profile.)

59karenb
mar 22, 6:23am

602wonderY
Redigeret: mar 22, 8:31am

https://www.librarything.com/profile/seoexpertindia

See the spam in the profile pictures

61MarthaJeanne
mar 22, 9:42am

>60 2wonderY: is gone, but >59 karenb: isn't.

64karenb
mar 25, 12:24am

Less than a minute!

712wonderY
apr 6, 7:05am

76MarthaJeanne
Redigeret: apr 17, 3:39am

>75 Nicole_VanK: We got rid of that one very quickly.

77gilroy
Redigeret: apr 17, 7:09am

>74 lilithcat: Did anyone leave a note on her profile?

ETA: OMG, never mind. I found her tirade thread.

79MarthaJeanne
Redigeret: apr 19, 4:00am

>78 2wonderY: also https://www.librarything.com/topic/331527

Both this one and the one in 78 are gone now.

80karenb
apr 20, 9:11am

profile: https://www.librarything.com/profile/tina1sharma1
review: https://www.librarything.com/review/197844608 (to get flagged out of existence before marking the work as spam)

822wonderY
apr 23, 6:34am

>81 MarthaJeanne: She seems to have paused; but she’s already removed my message to her. I came here to record her profile just in case...

83MarthaJeanne
apr 23, 6:41am

I know there were more than those 6. Anyway, all the ones I know about are gone.

84MarthaJeanne
apr 23, 3:34pm

>82 2wonderY: I guess she really gave up. It must be discouraging to delete a message about spamming just to have someone else add a similar message. Anyway, my message is still there.

852wonderY
apr 23, 3:40pm

Teamwork!

86karenb
Redigeret: apr 23, 10:27pm

88hailelib
apr 23, 10:42pm

The Eric Arnold author page is mostly books for children.

93norabelle414
maj 5, 10:48am

https://www.librarything.com/profile/brandon_mercado

The account is adding spam published reviews. See: https://www.librarything.com/work/3102448
The account has a bronze medal for adding published reviews so there are at least 25 of them out there somewhere.

94lilithcat
maj 5, 10:53am

>93 norabelle414:

Looks like he and his reviews are now gone.

95norabelle414
maj 5, 12:27pm

>93 norabelle414:
This account is doing it too: https://www.librarything.com/profile/JewelBonney2888

Both are using the published reviews to promote something called novelstar (sometimes spelled "n0velstar" with a zero)

from https://www.librarything.com/work/8585029

afaik there's no way to search or see a list of recently added published reviews, right?

98gilroy
maj 10, 3:35pm

https://www.librarything.com/spam_works.php

We have plenty of items in the spam works section that need to be voted as No. Some users have chosen to catalogue their cell items with full description, but they aren't actively trying to sell these things, that I've seen (If I'm wrong, I'll change my stance on these.) If all they did was catalogue, then these are NOT spam and should not be marked as such.

99FAMeulstee
maj 10, 3:56pm

>98 gilroy: But then adding a cover of an existing book to cell items ...?

100gilroy
Redigeret: maj 10, 4:06pm

>99 FAMeulstee: I would say that they had a faulty upload with something.

If they aren't actively pushing things for sale, they are not violating the TOS and as such it is NOT spam.

101MarthaJeanne
Redigeret: maj 10, 4:34pm

An awful lot of them are ghost editions anyway.

Others are bad Amazon entries.

102karenb
Redigeret: maj 10, 9:37pm

>98 gilroy:
Yes, over forty were already passed as spam. There are over 100 left.

>100 gilroy: What gilroy said: possibly iffy, but not spam.

ETA: Dubious may be a better word than iffy.

103MarthaJeanne
maj 11, 6:57am

1042wonderY
maj 11, 8:21am

>103 MarthaJeanne: Hmm. Admin option to remove the post doesn’t work the way I thought it should.

1052wonderY
maj 11, 8:25am

Does joining a group protect a profile from being removed by flags?

106norabelle414
maj 11, 9:27am

>105 2wonderY: My guess, based on all the accounts I found above, is that *new* accounts can be suspended with just one or two flags but older accounts require at least many more flags if not site admin intervention.

1072wonderY
maj 11, 9:56am

There was a period of looking for old Spam accounts and they disappeared quite readily.

108norabelle414
maj 11, 10:17am

>107 2wonderY: I think that was before the site went fully free - previously, free accounts would be dispatched quickly and paid accounts took extra effort. But now all accounts are free (with all the privileges of a paid account).

112MarthaJeanne
Redigeret: maj 13, 4:45am

Re >105 2wonderY: This one isn't going either, so I would guess that it is length of membership. Which is funny, because if this member had just joined, I would not have flagged. It was no activity in over a year since joining that convinced me that the whole purpose of joining was to post that ad in Vietnamese. And in fact it was to get that content and their website link counted. As spam goes it doesn't interfere with people using the site, so I guess it comes down to how Tim feels about LT being used to up people's counts.

115karenb
maj 17, 7:37am

old, but still worth flagging?

review: https://www.librarything.com/work/3753235/reviews/20140810
user: https://www.librarything.com/profile/nisha_sharma03

(work is possibly fake but not spam)

118norabelle414
Redigeret: maj 18, 8:52am

1202wonderY
maj 22, 5:39am

I seem to have lost my flagging powers. Usually one flag will disappear profiles. Not today.

https://www.librarything.com/profile/CyberlabTechnologies

https://www.librarything.com/profile/alljobsgk

121lilithcat
maj 22, 8:38am

>120 2wonderY:

They're gone now.

122MarthaJeanne
Redigeret: maj 24, 12:25am

Author spam

https://www.librarything.com/topic/13910#7513831

And while you are there, message 37 could use another flag.

(https://www.librarything.com/profile/timi.ogunjobi)

126lilithcat
Redigeret: maj 26, 9:12am

127gilroy
maj 26, 9:30am

>126 lilithcat: But if they aren't advertising a cleaning service, they are allowed to catalog anything they want...

128karenb
Redigeret: maj 27, 2:06am

review: https://www.librarything.com/work/22718861/reviews/164243678

as >127 gilroy: notes, the related works are technically not spam, nor is the user. So close, though. The review definitely is spam.

(And yeah, it was possibly a bad call on my part for >125 karenb: . I'm trying to be more cautious these days.)

1292wonderY
maj 27, 4:25am

>127 gilroy:, >128 karenb:. I believe when the joining and adding spam links in places like reviews, the work and the profile should be flagged as Spam too.

130karenb
maj 28, 12:56am

user: https://www.librarything.com/profile/SolarLi
(work already marked as spam)

131karenb
maj 28, 2:19am

review: https://www.librarything.com/work/13900177/reviews/98641815
user: https://www.librarything.com/profile/perfectsolar264

Please let the review become flagged out. I'll mark the work as spam later.

134spiralsheep
maj 28, 6:22am

>130 karenb: Also author spam here:

https://www.librarything.com/author/httpwwwsolarlighting

I don't know how to deal with that.

135jasbro
maj 28, 9:29am

>134 spiralsheep: Take a look again. Does that work, at least until timspalding, et al. can address it otherwise?

136norabelle414
maj 28, 9:34am

>135 jasbro: As mentioned in the first post here (I know it's kind of hidden toward the bottom), Tim has asked us not to change CK to indicate spammers. Once a spam author page has no works on it, it vanishes into the ether (technically still exists but there's no way to find it). There's no need to add a canonical name, and that can make things confusing in the future.

140karenb
maj 31, 10:14pm

user: https://www.librarything.com/profile/Roof-Installation
(work already flagged as spam)

142karenb
Redigeret: jun 1, 2:36pm

143jasbro
jun 1, 9:05pm

>136 norabelle414: Thanks - I had missed that.

145elkiedee
Redigeret: jun 9, 5:06pm

user: https://www.librarything.com/profile/Mello.Marsh
on George Saunders, A Swim in the Pond on the Rain - Published Review
Suggesting using a site called novelstar.com

I see this has been reported on other accounts by others eg >96 norabelle414: and >97 norabelle414:

146MarthaJeanne
jun 9, 5:30pm

>145 elkiedee: I have deleted the review.

147MarthaJeanne
jun 9, 11:49pm

https://www.librarything.com/profile/PageTurn also entered a novelstar.com ad in published review.

150MarthaJeanne
Redigeret: jun 10, 5:35am

>148 MarthaJeanne: >149 gilroy: Both gone. Sorry, I don't hang out at the Green Dragon.

Should we do anything about the caption to his author picture?
https://www.librarything.com/author/sujithsukumar

1512wonderY
jun 10, 6:18am

>150 MarthaJeanne: I uploaded the picture again and flagged the original.

152lilithcat
Redigeret: jun 10, 8:12am

>150 MarthaJeanne:

i generally drop a comment asking the uploader to remove the biographical/promotional material, and directing them to the information on the "Contributing Photos to LibraryThing" wiki page. If they don't do so within a day or two, then I'll re-upload it and flag the original.

I think it's appropriate to give the person time to fix the issue, and they often do. I've occasionally received very nice "Thank you for letting me know" responses.

153haydninvienna
Redigeret: jun 10, 9:09am

https://www.librarything.com/profile/EwanStokes
and
https://www.librarything.com/topic/331097#7527133

Flagged the message, giving the profile the benefit of the doubt for now (but will be watching).

ETA Doubt resolved--same message popped up in a group I don't hang out in. Flagged.

154lilithcat
jun 10, 9:19am

>153 haydninvienna:

What was the message?

155haydninvienna
jun 10, 9:57am

It's gone now but something about Google paying, and what looked like bits of an ad for a gym. Plus a link.