Quotations 3
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1margd
“I Have Only Just a Minute”
I have only just a minute,
Only sixty seconds in it.
Forced upon me, can’t refuse it.
Didn’t seek it, didn’t choose it.
But it’s up to me
to use it.
I must suffer if I lose it.
Give account if I abuse it.
Just a tiny little minute,
but eternity is in it.
- Dr. Benjamin E. Mays
I have only just a minute,
Only sixty seconds in it.
Forced upon me, can’t refuse it.
Didn’t seek it, didn’t choose it.
But it’s up to me
to use it.
I must suffer if I lose it.
Give account if I abuse it.
Just a tiny little minute,
but eternity is in it.
- Dr. Benjamin E. Mays
3GeorgeKhan
Denne bruger er blevet fjernet som værende spam.
5Limelite
Moral certainty is always a sign of cultural inferiority. The more uncivilized the man, the surer he is that he knows precisely what is right and what is wrong. All human progress, even in morals, has been the work of men who have doubted the current moral values, not of men who have whooped them up and tried to enforce them. -- H.L. Mencken
6Cubby.R.S.
>5 Limelite:
In which one might fail to see how more laws present an idea of moral certainty, whereas individualism represents moral responsibility. But, probably a comment lost on Leftist cult worshippers.
In which one might fail to see how more laws present an idea of moral certainty, whereas individualism represents moral responsibility. But, probably a comment lost on Leftist cult worshippers.
7Limelite
In response to Trump's war on Ben Franklin's greatest contribution to our Republic. Some words of wit and wisdom that a certain P'R'US and his followers should heed.
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
By failing to prepare, you are preparing to fail.
Whatever is begun in anger, ends in shame.
Love your enemies, for they tell you your faults.
While we may not be able to control all that happens to us, we can control what happens inside us.
8Limelite
>6 Cubby.R.S.:
In which one must deliberately choose not to see that
In which one must deliberately choose not to see that
“One has not only a legal, but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws.” -- Martin Luther King, Jr.The universal definition of civil disobedience lost on RWNJ Trumpist cultists.
9Cubby.R.S.
>8 Limelite:
What happens when disobedience infringes on rights of others and is not solely rejection of the government? I wouldn't assume that color means mindset. It's actual racism.
What happens when disobedience infringes on rights of others and is not solely rejection of the government? I wouldn't assume that color means mindset. It's actual racism.
10Limelite
>9 Cubby.R.S.:
What happens is, when you're an "offended" privileged white person who arrives in your car at a street blocked off by marching protestors carrying signs that demand an end to police brutality and reform of the justice system, you don't press on the accelerator and plow your vehicle into the crowd.
What happens is, when you're an "offended" privileged white person who arrives in your car at a street blocked off by marching protestors carrying signs that demand an end to police brutality and reform of the justice system, you don't press on the accelerator and plow your vehicle into the crowd.
14John5918
Selected quotes from Jacinta Ardern (link)
“Capitalism has failed our people. If you have hundreds of thousands of children living in homes without enough to survive, that’s a blatant failure. What else could you describe it as?”
“To me, leadership is not about necessarily being the loudest in the room, but instead being the bridge, or the thing that is missing in the discussion and trying to build a consensus from there.”
“It takes courage and strength to be empathetic, and I’m very proudly an empathetic and compassionate leader. I am trying to chart a different path, and that will attract criticism but I can only be true to myself and the form of leadership I believe in.”
“Do you want to be a leader that looks back in time and say that you were on the wrong side of the argument when the world was crying out for a solution?”
On leaving her Mormon religion to support LGBT rights: “For a lot of years I put it to the back of my mind. I think it was too unsettling... I lived in a flat with three gay friends and I remember going to church and thinking – I’m either doing a disservice to the church or my friends. How could I subscribe to a religion that didn’t account for them?”
Edited to correct typo. Thanks to Kiparsky for noticing.
“Capitalism has failed our people. If you have hundreds of thousands of children living in homes without enough to survive, that’s a blatant failure. What else could you describe it as?”
“To me, leadership is not about necessarily being the loudest in the room, but instead being the bridge, or the thing that is missing in the discussion and trying to build a consensus from there.”
“It takes courage and strength to be empathetic, and I’m very proudly an empathetic and compassionate leader. I am trying to chart a different path, and that will attract criticism but I can only be true to myself and the form of leadership I believe in.”
“Do you want to be a leader that looks back in time and say that you were on the wrong side of the argument when the world was crying out for a solution?”
On leaving her Mormon religion to support LGBT rights: “For a lot of years I put it to the back of my mind. I think it was too unsettling... I lived in a flat with three gay friends and I remember going to church and thinking – I’m either doing a disservice to the church or my friends. How could I subscribe to a religion that didn’t account for them?”
Edited to correct typo. Thanks to Kiparsky for noticing.
15Limelite
>11 Cubby.R.S.:
Perhaps you should stick to silence. You are not qualified to debate anyone until you learn the correct accepted meaning since the 1930s of the word "fascist." Your invalid RWNJ pop-culture re-definition of "fascist" is the tool of fools.
The issues and this moment in history unhappily exceed the exhibition you have made of your education and expose your deprived status in the political arena.
My sentiments are shared and best expressed with this quote
Perhaps you should stick to silence. You are not qualified to debate anyone until you learn the correct accepted meaning since the 1930s of the word "fascist." Your invalid RWNJ pop-culture re-definition of "fascist" is the tool of fools.
The issues and this moment in history unhappily exceed the exhibition you have made of your education and expose your deprived status in the political arena.
My sentiments are shared and best expressed with this quote
There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge. -- Isaac Assimov
16librorumamans
>15 Limelite:
Once again, let's keep this thread free of commentary, particularly commentary directed at other posters. Please?
Once again, let's keep this thread free of commentary, particularly commentary directed at other posters. Please?
17Cubby.R.S.
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be “cured” against one’s will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals"
--C.S. Lewis
--C.S. Lewis
18Cubby.R.S.
“The receptivity of the masses is very limited, their intelligence is small, but their power of forgetting is enormous. In consequence of these facts, all effective propaganda must be limited to a very few points and must harp on these in slogans until the last member of the public understands what you want him to understand by your slogan.”
--Adolf Hitler
or CNN
--Adolf Hitler
or CNN
19Limelite
"One picture is worth 1000 denials." -- Ronald ReaganRef.: The Picture.
20Limelite
For right wingers, here are quotes from one of their 'heroes',Thomas Sowell, Conservative/Libertarian Economist He is wrong about many things but right about being wrong.
1) It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong.His best quote, because it is factual, unbiased, and applicable to our times.
2) (edited for generality; removed reference to steel) Tariffs that save jobs in industry mean higher prices (for products), which in turn means fewer sales of American products around the world and losses of far more jobs than are saved.
3) It is so easy to be wrong -- and to persist in being wrong -- when the costs of being wrong are paid by others.
4) It is usually futile to try and talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.
Any politician who can be elected only by turning Americans against other Americans is too dangerous to be elected.For the record, here is Sowell back in 2016. Prescient, as it turns out. He didn't like Clinton but in his words, "Trump is an unmitigated disaster."
24Limelite
>23 Cubby.R.S.:
Thanks for perfect illustrative quote where Sowell goes off his ideological rails into a traumatic trance of Lib Fear, that state of being that makes RWNJs and (especially) Libertarians pee their pants when someone stands up to the pseudo-philosophy of Ayn Rand. Think of her namesake, Rand Paul. . .would you let him perform your corneal transplant? Talk about bat guano nutcase! Lesson here: Be careful choosing your child's name. You could doom them forever.
BTW, the quote was not uttered the date the tweet was posted. That's just when the Sowell book devotee decided to put it online.
No one doubts that Justice Thomas gets all his "intellectual gravitas" (*cough*) from Sowell. They are of identical stripe. Sowell has a mote in his eye on the topic of Obama. Read enough of his quotes about 44 and you'll see him flip-flop so badly that one day he berates him for this reason and the next day he finds fault with him on the basis of the reverse or opposite one. Everything he misfires on regarding Obama's motives, character, and "rhetoric" fit DJT more accurately and much better. But they're actually dangerous in the Orange Shitegibbon.
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It is Sowell's sad case that he is who he is -- a snob -- because. . .
Thanks for perfect illustrative quote where Sowell goes off his ideological rails into a traumatic trance of Lib Fear, that state of being that makes RWNJs and (especially) Libertarians pee their pants when someone stands up to the pseudo-philosophy of Ayn Rand. Think of her namesake, Rand Paul. . .would you let him perform your corneal transplant? Talk about bat guano nutcase! Lesson here: Be careful choosing your child's name. You could doom them forever.
BTW, the quote was not uttered the date the tweet was posted. That's just when the Sowell book devotee decided to put it online.
No one doubts that Justice Thomas gets all his "intellectual gravitas" (*cough*) from Sowell. They are of identical stripe. Sowell has a mote in his eye on the topic of Obama. Read enough of his quotes about 44 and you'll see him flip-flop so badly that one day he berates him for this reason and the next day he finds fault with him on the basis of the reverse or opposite one. Everything he misfires on regarding Obama's motives, character, and "rhetoric" fit DJT more accurately and much better. But they're actually dangerous in the Orange Shitegibbon.
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It is Sowell's sad case that he is who he is -- a snob -- because. . .
Snobbery is the pride of those who are not sure of their position. -- Berton Braley
25Limelite
It is the duty of righteous men to make war on all undeserved privilege, but one must not forget that this is a war without end.
Primo Levi
26margd
“How long shall thy madness outbrave our justice? When will there be an end of that unbridled audacity of yours, swaggering about as it does now?”
~𝐂𝐢𝐜𝐞𝐫𝗼, 𝑇ℎ𝑒 𝐹𝑖𝑟𝑠𝑡 𝑂𝑟𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛
(via Joe Scarborough, NBC)
~𝐂𝐢𝐜𝐞𝐫𝗼, 𝑇ℎ𝑒 𝐹𝑖𝑟𝑠𝑡 𝑂𝑟𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛
(via Joe Scarborough, NBC)
27margd
"The 1st messenger that gave notice of Lucullus' coming was so far from pleasing Tigranes that he had his head cut off and no man dared to bring further information. Without any intelligence at all, Tigranes sat while war was already blazing around him."
Plutarch
(via Laurie Garrett)
Plutarch
(via Laurie Garrett)
28Limelite
It is no coincidence that the growth of modern tyrants has in every case been heralded by the growth of prejudice.Veep of FDR; "Father" of post-war liberalism; author, The Danger of American Fascism
Henry A. Wallace
29John5918
"The landlord calls it rent and he winks the other eye,
The merchant calls it profit and he sighs a heavy sigh,
The banker calls it interest and puts it in the bag,
But our honest friend the burglar simply calls it swag."
John S Clark, member of the Socialist Labour Party and anti-war activist during World War I, quoted in To End All Wars by Adam Hochschild
The merchant calls it profit and he sighs a heavy sigh,
The banker calls it interest and puts it in the bag,
But our honest friend the burglar simply calls it swag."
John S Clark, member of the Socialist Labour Party and anti-war activist during World War I, quoted in To End All Wars by Adam Hochschild
30Limelite
No fundamental social change occurs merely because government acts. It's because civil society, the conscience of a country, begins to rise up and demand - demand - demand change.
Joe Biden
34Limelite
We cannot shun our values as an immigrant nation. This is a wrong path. And while possibly it is a short-term political victory based on division and based on creating a wedge issue that splits people in this country, it is a long-term defeat for this Nation.
Raul Grijalva
35margd
Fight for the things that you care about, but do it in a way that will lead others to join you.
Ruth Bader Ginsburg
Ruth Bader Ginsburg
362wonderY
“Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.”
-Ralph Waldo Emerson
-Ralph Waldo Emerson
38Limelite
Question: What will the citizens do November 3rd 2020?
Justice in the life and conduct of the State is possible only as first it resides in the hearts and souls of the citizens.
Plato
40Limelite
Still the Beacon of Right Wing "Law & Order"
Who said it best? Donald Trump or Idi Amin?
Who said it best? Donald Trump or Idi Amin?
In any country there must be people who have to die. They are the sacrifices any nation has to make to achieve law and order.
42Ken-Me-Old-Mate
The tree of nonsense is watered with error, and from its branches swing the pumpkins of disaster.
43Ken-Me-Old-Mate
USA
The USA is the most disappointing superpower ever.
It took you 40 years to defeat the USSR in the cold war despite the fact that in 1940 the USSR was a pre-industrialised nation with half your population that had just been ravaged by two world wars a revolution and mass purging’s.
You never had an empire; your cultural contribution is negligible and consists of reruns of Fiends and Scrubs.
Despite being the world’s richest nation by a massive margin your healthcare system excludes 40 million despite spending more than the nations with inclusive systems.
60% of you think the universe was created 5000 years ago.
Power and influence are bought in billion dollar elections; your only god is money and status.
You may top the tables for Olympic gold medals and Nobel prizes but per capita you are way down the list, you only succeed because you have weight of numbers and dollars, you have no class, no finesse, you’re like the fat ugly kid at school who rolls on the little kids for their lunch money.
You are $10 Trillion odd in debt, and within 20 years will most likely be $100 Trillion. You brag about how awesome you are but in 10 years China will have overtaken you and you will be irrelevant. The Roman and British empires lasted for hundreds of years but your domination lasted a meagre half century in which you have achieved nothing. The world will remember you as greedy, culturally impotent, arrogant, failures.
ou might think I am just a butthurt Britfag but I would have loved to see you guys succeed, to have promoted freedom and justice after destroying the menace of fascism and communism but you have wasted your time at the top.
You have betrayed the ideals of your founding fathers - liberty, enlightenment, and democracy - by becoming a bunch of fundamentalist morons with no respect for culture or science who torture and detain without trial.
History will judge you as losers.
The USA is the most disappointing superpower ever.
It took you 40 years to defeat the USSR in the cold war despite the fact that in 1940 the USSR was a pre-industrialised nation with half your population that had just been ravaged by two world wars a revolution and mass purging’s.
You never had an empire; your cultural contribution is negligible and consists of reruns of Fiends and Scrubs.
Despite being the world’s richest nation by a massive margin your healthcare system excludes 40 million despite spending more than the nations with inclusive systems.
60% of you think the universe was created 5000 years ago.
Power and influence are bought in billion dollar elections; your only god is money and status.
You may top the tables for Olympic gold medals and Nobel prizes but per capita you are way down the list, you only succeed because you have weight of numbers and dollars, you have no class, no finesse, you’re like the fat ugly kid at school who rolls on the little kids for their lunch money.
You are $10 Trillion odd in debt, and within 20 years will most likely be $100 Trillion. You brag about how awesome you are but in 10 years China will have overtaken you and you will be irrelevant. The Roman and British empires lasted for hundreds of years but your domination lasted a meagre half century in which you have achieved nothing. The world will remember you as greedy, culturally impotent, arrogant, failures.
ou might think I am just a butthurt Britfag but I would have loved to see you guys succeed, to have promoted freedom and justice after destroying the menace of fascism and communism but you have wasted your time at the top.
You have betrayed the ideals of your founding fathers - liberty, enlightenment, and democracy - by becoming a bunch of fundamentalist morons with no respect for culture or science who torture and detain without trial.
History will judge you as losers.
44Ken-Me-Old-Mate
that last quote is around 10 years old but oh so relevant today
45John5918
>43 Ken-Me-Old-Mate:
And they don't play cricket. But Ken me ol' mate, can I respectfully suggest that we try to keep this thread for actual quotations (as you have done in >42 Ken-Me-Old-Mate:), not political discourses? There are plenty of threads in the Pro and Con group for conversations about US politics. You'll find many people there, including US citizens, who pretty much agree with you.
Incidentally, welcome to LT. Nice to see a Kiwi posting and adding to the international dimension of a site which is often dominated by US posters.
And they don't play cricket. But Ken me ol' mate, can I respectfully suggest that we try to keep this thread for actual quotations (as you have done in >42 Ken-Me-Old-Mate:), not political discourses? There are plenty of threads in the Pro and Con group for conversations about US politics. You'll find many people there, including US citizens, who pretty much agree with you.
Incidentally, welcome to LT. Nice to see a Kiwi posting and adding to the international dimension of a site which is often dominated by US posters.
46margd
>44 Ken-Me-Old-Mate: >45 John5918: Maybe repost in https://www.librarything.com/topic/247759 ? (A rough equivalent of "what do allies think of U.S.".) Friends tell friends... After Bush2, a clever one made rounds in which the Queen revoked our independence... :/ ("It's pronounced 'aluminium'!")
47John5918
>46 margd:
The revocation of US independence is brilliant satire. There are slightly different versions, such as this one, which includes:
There is no such thing as "US English". We will let Microsoft know on your behalf...
All American cars are hereby banned. They are crap and it is for your own good. When we show you German cars, you will understand what we mean...
You will learn to resolve personal issues without using guns, lawyers or therapists...
Please tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us crazy...
The revocation of US independence is brilliant satire. There are slightly different versions, such as this one, which includes:
There is no such thing as "US English". We will let Microsoft know on your behalf...
All American cars are hereby banned. They are crap and it is for your own good. When we show you German cars, you will understand what we mean...
You will learn to resolve personal issues without using guns, lawyers or therapists...
Please tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us crazy...
48Ken-Me-Old-Mate
“Anyone who isn't embarrassed of who they were last year probably isn't learning enough.” ― Alain de Botton
I think I just caught up with myself :-)
I think I just caught up with myself :-)
49Limelite
To All Republicans Who Have Stood by Trump and Still Remain Silent
Listen to your betters.
SPEAK OUT. ACT OUT. VOTE for DEMOCRACY, VOTE DEMOCRATIC.
Listen to your betters.
“Silence becomes cowardice when occasion demands speaking out the whole truth and acting accordingly.” ― Mahatma Gandhi
“Have I, have you, been too silent? Is there an easy crime of silence?” ― Carl Sandburg
“If I were to do nothing, I'd be guilty of complicity.” ― DaShanne Stokes
“Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence.” ― Leonardo da VinciShe ought to know.
"Donald, following the lead of my grandfather and with the complicity, silence and inaction of his siblings, destroyed my father. I can't let him destroy my country." -- Mary L. TrumpIf she can't, how can you?
SPEAK OUT. ACT OUT. VOTE for DEMOCRACY, VOTE DEMOCRATIC.
50Limelite
Trump's Brain(?) on Science
All Trump's quotes below made before he was elected. Nothing's changed, except add a pandemic to the environment.
In his own words: Trump's scientific acumen distills down to a matter of air temperature. Warmer = No Coronavirus; Colder = No Wildfires.
They won't admit it, but even most of his supporters who still cling to him know that they know more than he does about science. And (they won't admit this, either) they believe it. The only area where their knowledge and belief defeats them is in rationalizing their continuing support for a science moron.
Who's worse?
All Trump's quotes below made before he was elected. Nothing's changed, except add a pandemic to the environment.
“Looks like by April, you know, in theory, when it gets a little warmer, it miraculously goes away. I hope that’s true. But we’re doing great in our country. China, I spoke with President Xi, and they’re working very, very hard. And I think it’s going to all work out fine.” — Trump, at a campaign rally in Manchester, N.H.
Not only are wind farms disgusting looking, but even worse they are bad for people’s health http://t.co/2G8YrOUZ (cont) http://t.co/NujHgnXU — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) April 23, 2012Meet the man who told Trump climate change is real
Remember, new “environment friendly” lightbulbs can cause cancer. Be careful– the idiots who came up with this stuff don’t care. — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 17, 2012
The U.S. must immediately stop all flights from EBOLA infected countries or the plague will start and spread inside our “borders.” Act fast! — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 2, 2014
If we didn’t remove incredibly powerful fire retardant asbestos & replace it with junk that doesn’t (cont) http://t.co/d10u18dh -- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 17, 2012
Healthy young child goes to doctor, gets pumped with massive shot of many vaccines, doesn’t feel good and changes – AUTISM. Many such cases! — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 28, 2014
The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive. — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 6, 2012
Wade Crowfoot, a California Cabinet secretary, didn’t plan on confronting President Donald Trump on extreme heat and wildfires. Then Trump dismissed climate change.
“It’ll just start getting cooler, you just watch,” Trump said during a Monday meeting with California officials who were briefing him on the state’s catastrophic wildfires.
Crowfoot, in a response that went viral, responded: “I wish science agreed with you.”
“Well, I don’t think science knows, actually,” Trump retorted before turning away.
In his own words: Trump's scientific acumen distills down to a matter of air temperature. Warmer = No Coronavirus; Colder = No Wildfires.
They won't admit it, but even most of his supporters who still cling to him know that they know more than he does about science. And (they won't admit this, either) they believe it. The only area where their knowledge and belief defeats them is in rationalizing their continuing support for a science moron.
Who's worse?
51Kuiperdolin
I'm not so arrogant that I think I know more than Donald about science. And I have a science diploma!
52kiparsky
>51 Kuiperdolin: You have a diploma? In Science? Wowsers, I thought they only gave those out in 1960s comedy routines.
I don't actually think it takes that much arrogance to say that you know more than Trump about science. He's pretty convincingly demonstrated that you do. (see the quotes in >50 Limelite:, for example)
I don't actually think it takes that much arrogance to say that you know more than Trump about science. He's pretty convincingly demonstrated that you do. (see the quotes in >50 Limelite:, for example)
53Limelite
>51 Kuiperdolin:
The mind boggles! A 'diploma' in 'science.' Well, well, well. I don't think I've ever heard anyone admit to that before.
But I understand and honor you lack of arrogance about being ignorant-er about the subject than the Orange Shitegibbon.
BTW, with your diploma, maybe you could explain to the rest of us how god made a monkey out of Donald Trump? I know evolution can't explain it.
The mind boggles! A 'diploma' in 'science.' Well, well, well. I don't think I've ever heard anyone admit to that before.
But I understand and honor you lack of arrogance about being ignorant-er about the subject than the Orange Shitegibbon.
BTW, with your diploma, maybe you could explain to the rest of us how god made a monkey out of Donald Trump? I know evolution can't explain it.
54Limelite
An Adapted Quote from Lewis Black, Comedian
It's now a "famous quote" by me.
It's now a "famous quote" by me.
In my lifetime, when it comes to Republican presidents, we've gone from Dwight Eisenhower to George W. Bush, to Donald J. Trump. If this is evolution in Republican politics, I expect I'll live to see that their next candidate is a toe fungus. -- Limelite
55Limelite
She Told You So -- Why You Should Watch Debates
"Maybe he doesn't want the American people, all of you watching tonight, to know that he's paid nothing in federal taxes ... So if he's paid zero, that means zero for troops, zero for vets, zero for schools or health." -- Hillary Clinton at the first debate in 2016
"Well, that's because he'd rather have a puppet as president of the United States." -- Hillary Clinton at the third debate in 2016 after Trump said Putin had "no respect" for her or Obama.
56Ken-Me-Old-Mate
I feel like I’m living in one of those B Grade dystopian sci-fi books I read voraciously in the 70s. It is all so cheesy. Compared to Q-Anon, the Illuminati seem like Quantum Theory.
57Limelite
Good Sentiments To Remember and Have in Days Like These
It's not life that counts but the fortitude you bring into it.
-- John Galsworthy
Fortitude is the guard and support of the other virtues.
-- John Locke
True fortitude is seen in great exploits That justice warrants, and that wisdom guides; And all else is tow'ring phrenzy and distraction.
-- Joseph Addison
58Ken-Me-Old-Mate
“When I was a boy of 14, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be 21, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in seven years.”
Mark Twain
Mark Twain
62Limelite
Absolutely NOT endorsing the metallic qualities of Trump's tongue, nor that his positions (he has NO policies) last as long as one hour. Fully endorse the last sentence, however.
“A silver-tongued charlatan and a half-wit society are made for each other! When these two come together in an election, a great disaster happens: Charlatan comes to power!”
“If the agenda in a country is constantly changing, sometimes even hourly, you must know that you are governed by ignorant and incompetent! And perhaps worse, you are run by traitors who only serve foreign country interests!”
― Mehmet Murat ildan
63Limelite
Trump Claims Teddy Roosevelt is One of His Heroes
Well then, maybe he should model himself on what his hero said, rather than on his own father. . .
Well then, maybe he should model himself on what his hero said, rather than on his own father. . .
The most practical kind of politics is the politics of decency.If he did he might have remained a Democrat and avoided being universally reviled. He might have taken a different mission from his single-minded goal of destroying Obamacare and endangering millions of Americans.
-- Theodore Roosevelt
Since the days of Harry Truman, Democrats have wanted universal health coverage, believing that if other industrialized countries can achieve it, surely the United States can. For Democrats, universal coverage speaks to America's sense of decency and compassion. Democrats also believe that it will lead to a healthier and more productive country.
-- Bill Bradley
64margd
Scientists do not coddle ideas.
They crash test them.
They run them into a brick wall at sixty miles per hour and examine the pieces.
If the idea is sound, the pieces will be that of the wall.
source?
They crash test them.
They run them into a brick wall at sixty miles per hour and examine the pieces.
If the idea is sound, the pieces will be that of the wall.
source?
65Limelite
>64 margd:
At first I thought it might be R.P. Feynman -- he was macho like that about physics. Then, I thought maybe it was Carl Sagan, making a "made for TV" comment about physics.
Both guesses were wrong.
That vigorous, fearless assertion is attributed to Marie Curie. But I can't substantiate that. I suspect it might be a line out of a movie made about her life and put into her mouth by a creative writer, until someone can prove otherwise.
Anyone?
At first I thought it might be R.P. Feynman -- he was macho like that about physics. Then, I thought maybe it was Carl Sagan, making a "made for TV" comment about physics.
Both guesses were wrong.
That vigorous, fearless assertion is attributed to Marie Curie. But I can't substantiate that. I suspect it might be a line out of a movie made about her life and put into her mouth by a creative writer, until someone can prove otherwise.
Anyone?
66mikevail
>64 margd:
It appears to be from a book called "Corporate Venturing: Accelerate growth through collaboration with startups"
by Dado Van Peteghem and Omar Mohout
It does not appear as a quote in the book.
It appears to be from a book called "Corporate Venturing: Accelerate growth through collaboration with startups"
by Dado Van Peteghem and Omar Mohout
It does not appear as a quote in the book.
67Kuiperdolin
Crash tests were not a thing in the days of Marie Curie (apparently the very first one was in '34, the year she died) so it sounds like nonsense to me.
69John5918
“The term ‘virtue signalling’ is not an argument but a sneer. When you say somebody is ‘virtue signalling’, you’re not bothering to commit yourself to an argument about whether the position they are taking is right or wrong. Rather, you are making a groundless and unfalsifiable presumption about their motive for doing so and using that as the supposed basis to dismiss the whole shebang. It immediately, lazily and arrogantly, frames any assertion of a moral or political principle as an act of narcissism.”
Sam Leith, the Spectator’s literary editor, 2020.
Sam Leith, the Spectator’s literary editor, 2020.
70margd
On 160th anniversary of Lincoln's election to presidency:
Nearly all men can stand adversity,
but if you want to test a man’s character,
give him power.
- Abraham Lincoln
Nearly all men can stand adversity,
but if you want to test a man’s character,
give him power.
- Abraham Lincoln
71Limelite
In Celebration of Free & Fair Elections
“The will of the people is the only legitimate foundation of any government, and to protect its free expression should be our first object.”
-- Thomas Jefferson
72John5918
"War is the negation of all rights and a dramatic assault on the environment. If we want true integral human development for all, we must work tirelessly to avoid war.”
Pope Francis, November 6, 2020
Pope Francis, November 6, 2020
73AlexandraHewitt 
Denne bruger er blevet fjernet som værende spam.
74Limelite
Pas sans humour
Citizenship means every four years you put a mark somewhere and you go home and let other guys run the world. It's a very destructive ideology.
-- Noam Chomsky
75John5918
‘Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.…’
Winston S Churchill, 11 November 1947
Winston S Churchill, 11 November 1947
76Limelite
A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims... but accomplices.
— George Orwell, 1903-1950, British writer
77margd
There was always just enough virtue in this republic to save it;
sometimes none to spare, but still enough to meet the emergency.
Secretary of State William Seward
sometimes none to spare, but still enough to meet the emergency.
Secretary of State William Seward
78Limelite
John Adams Warns of Dangers of 'Fake News' & 'Alt Facts'
Reflections on the Meaning of Enlightenment
Reflections on the Meaning of Enlightenment
“Liberty cannot be preserved without a general knowledge among the people, who have a right … and a desire to know.”and
—John Adams, 1765
“Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.”
—John Adams
79John5918
While researching a book project I came across this quote from the Sudanese Catholic Bishops in January 1993, from a pastoral letter entitled "Blessed Are The Peacemakers":
“War of its very nature is evil. War is unworthy of human beings... Thousands and thousands of people – human beings – have been killed, and among them women and children killed in cold blood. No party to the war can escape the guilt of such mass and indiscriminate murder... sections of the population are deliberately incited to hate, to maltreat and even to kill those who do not belong to their group. For several years now we have lived under emergency laws that effectively curtailed most of our constitutional rights and freedoms are denied – all these in the name of war... Yet the psychosis of war has prevented us from understanding that the war is the single major cause of this impoverishment...”
The letter continues with a powerful appeal for peace.
“War of its very nature is evil. War is unworthy of human beings... Thousands and thousands of people – human beings – have been killed, and among them women and children killed in cold blood. No party to the war can escape the guilt of such mass and indiscriminate murder... sections of the population are deliberately incited to hate, to maltreat and even to kill those who do not belong to their group. For several years now we have lived under emergency laws that effectively curtailed most of our constitutional rights and freedoms are denied – all these in the name of war... Yet the psychosis of war has prevented us from understanding that the war is the single major cause of this impoverishment...”
The letter continues with a powerful appeal for peace.
80Limelite
A New President, A New Attitude
It's easy to make a buck. It's a lot tougher to make a difference.
-- Tom Borkow
81alco261
In matters of science the proper procedure may be stated: Think, calculate, plan, experiment, think-and first, last, and all the time THINK. The method often pursued is: Wonder, guess, putter, guess again, theorize, and above all avoid calculation.
-A.G. Webster - 1910
...and on a lighter note...
When Hydrogen played Oxygen
The game had just begun.
Hydrogen scored two quick goals
and Oxygen had none.
Then Oxygen scored a single goal
and thus it did remain
Hydrogen 2, Oxygen 1...
called because of rain
...so much for chemistry
Source unknown
-A.G. Webster - 1910
...and on a lighter note...
When Hydrogen played Oxygen
The game had just begun.
Hydrogen scored two quick goals
and Oxygen had none.
Then Oxygen scored a single goal
and thus it did remain
Hydrogen 2, Oxygen 1...
called because of rain
...so much for chemistry
Source unknown
82Limelite
Post-2020 Election Lesson I
"Republicans fix the blame, Democrats fix the problems." -- Me
"Republicans fix the blame, Democrats fix the problems." -- Me
84John5918
“In War: Resolution,
In Defeat: Defiance,
In Victory: Magnanimity
In Peace: Good Will.”
Winston S. Churchill, The Second World War
In Defeat: Defiance,
In Victory: Magnanimity
In Peace: Good Will.”
Winston S. Churchill, The Second World War
85margd
“In 1736 I lost one of my sons, a fine boy of four years old, by the smallpox taken in the common way. I long regretted bitterly and still regret that I had not given it to him by inoculation. This I mention for the sake of the parents who omit that operation, on the supposition that they should never forgive themselves if a child died under it; my example showing that the regret may be the same either way, and that, therefore, the safer should be chosen.”
—Ben Franklin ( https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2653186/ )
—Ben Franklin ( https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2653186/ )
86Limelite
"The only foes that threaten America are the enemies at home, and these are ignorance, superstition, and incompetence."
-- Elbert Hubbard
87Limelite
"A weak mind is like a microscope, which magnifies trifling things but cannot receive great ones."
-- Lord Chesterfield
88Limelite
Ready for the Biden Era
But what is liberty without wisdom, and without virtue? It is the greatest of all possible evils; for it is folly, vice, and madness without tuition and restraint.Burke is one of the historical favorites of conservatives. After Trump, no more. Republicans brought us and enabled the "greatest of all possible evils," (Trump) and remain partial to his favorite tactic, which is violence. That "madness without tuition and restraint."
-- Edmund Burke
89Limelite
IT Security Quotation for the Putin Puppet
and
One of the tests of leadership is the ability to recognize a problem before it becomes an emergency.”
-- Arnold H. Glasow, Author & Businessman
and
There are risks and costs to a program of action — but they are far less than the long range cost of comfortable inaction.”
-- John F. Kennedy, 35th President of the United States
90John5918
Hope is a state of mind, not a state of the world
Either we have hope within us or we don’t.
Hope is not a prognostication—it’s an orientation of the spirit.
You can’t delegate that to anyone else.
Hope, in this deep and powerful sense, is not the same as joy
that things are going well,
or willingness to invest in enterprises
that are obviously headed for early success,
but, rather, an ability to work for something because it is good, not just because it stands a chance to succeed.
Hope is definitely not the same as optimism.
It’s not the conviction that something will turn out well,
but the certainty that something makes sense,
regardless of how it turns out.
It is hope, above all, that gives us strength to live
and to continuously try new things,
even in conditions that seem hopeless, here and now.
In the face of this absurdity, life is too precious a thing
to permit its devaluation by living pointlessly, emptily,
without meaning, without love, and, finally, without hope.
Václav Havel (Czech dissident, president and writer)
Either we have hope within us or we don’t.
Hope is not a prognostication—it’s an orientation of the spirit.
You can’t delegate that to anyone else.
Hope, in this deep and powerful sense, is not the same as joy
that things are going well,
or willingness to invest in enterprises
that are obviously headed for early success,
but, rather, an ability to work for something because it is good, not just because it stands a chance to succeed.
Hope is definitely not the same as optimism.
It’s not the conviction that something will turn out well,
but the certainty that something makes sense,
regardless of how it turns out.
It is hope, above all, that gives us strength to live
and to continuously try new things,
even in conditions that seem hopeless, here and now.
In the face of this absurdity, life is too precious a thing
to permit its devaluation by living pointlessly, emptily,
without meaning, without love, and, finally, without hope.
Václav Havel (Czech dissident, president and writer)
91Limelite
A leader takes people where they want to go. A great leader takes people where they don't necessarily want to go, but ought to be.
— Rosalynn Carter
92John5918
>91 Limelite:
Thanks for that. One has to think of Nelson Mandela and Desmond Tutu, who led the people of South Africa on the path of reconciliation even though that may not necessarily have been where they wanted to go.
Thanks for that. One has to think of Nelson Mandela and Desmond Tutu, who led the people of South Africa on the path of reconciliation even though that may not necessarily have been where they wanted to go.
93Limelite
Fighting corruption is not just good governance. It's self-defense. It's patriotism.
-- Joe Biden
94Limelite
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.
-- DWIGHT D. EISENHOWER
95margd
They were careless people, Tom and Daisy—they smashed up things and creatures and then retreated back into their money or their vast carelessness or whatever it was that kept them together, and let other people clean up the mess they had made.
- F. Scott Fitzgerald, The Great Gatsby
- F. Scott Fitzgerald, The Great Gatsby
96John5918
Charter of the United Nations
Chapter I — Purposes and Principles
Article 1
Chapter I — Purposes and Principles
Article 1
“The Purposes of the United Nations are:
1. To maintain international peace and security, and to that end: to take effective collective measures for the prevention and removal of threats to the peace, and for the suppression of acts of aggression or other breaches of the peace, and to bring about by peaceful means, and in conformity with the principles of justice and international law, adjustment or settlement of international disputes or situations which might lead to a breach of the peace;
2. To develop friendly relations among nations based on respect for the principle of equal rights and self-determination of peoples, and to take other appropriate measures to strengthen universal peace;
3. To achieve international cooperation in solving international problems of an economic, social, cultural, or humanitarian character, and in promoting and encouraging respect for human rights and for fundamental freedoms for all without distinction as to race, sex, language, or religion; and
4. To be a center for harmonizing the actions of nations in the attainment of these common ends.”
97Limelite
Bad times have a scientific value. These are occasions a good learner would not miss.
- Ralph Waldo Emerson
98John5918
From Fr Richard Rohr, New Year's Eve, 31st December 2020, speaking of his experience of the sisters of Mother Theresa:
Leaving aside the religious aspect, the "public and social form" might be very relevant in the USA these days where it seems common to lash out at the "other", whether that be the foreigner, the media, the other party, the "deep state" conspiracy, the police, scientists, public health professionals, or whomever, instead of looking inwards and seeing what we need to change within ourselves, both as individuals and collectives.
Link
The sisters didn’t waste time fixing, controlling, or even needing to understand what is wrong with others. Instead, they put all of their time and energy into letting God change them. From that transformed place, they serve and carry the pain of the world, which they are convinced is the pain of God. This is the synthesis on a communal level that I am always seeking. I have encountered it in many individuals, but hardly ever in public and social form.
Leaving aside the religious aspect, the "public and social form" might be very relevant in the USA these days where it seems common to lash out at the "other", whether that be the foreigner, the media, the other party, the "deep state" conspiracy, the police, scientists, public health professionals, or whomever, instead of looking inwards and seeing what we need to change within ourselves, both as individuals and collectives.
Link
100Limelite
When Donald Trump Phones
“They had one weapon left and both knew it: treachery.”
– Frank Herbert, Dune
101Limelite
Nihilism has no substance. There is no such thing as nothingness, and zero does not exist. Everything is something. Nothing is nothing.
-- Victor Hugo
102librorumamans
Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition … There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.
— Francis M. Wilhoit (via Rebecca Solnit in The Guardian 2020-01-07)
— Francis M. Wilhoit (via Rebecca Solnit in The Guardian 2020-01-07)
103librorumamans
A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within.
— Ariel Durant
— Ariel Durant
104margd
Cheap grace is the grace we bestow on ourselves. Cheap grace is the preaching of forgiveness without requiring repentance, baptism without church discipline, Communion without confession.
- Dietrich Bonhoeffer, a German Lutheran pastor and Nazi critic who was executed in the 1940s for anti-Hitler activism
- Dietrich Bonhoeffer, a German Lutheran pastor and Nazi critic who was executed in the 1940s for anti-Hitler activism
105Kuiperdolin
"Trump is a Traitor. Trump Has Destroyed Our Democracy. It's Time to Destroy Trump & Co." (James Thomas Hodgkinson)
1072wonderY
What delight comes to the one who follows God's ways! One who won’t walk in step with the wicked, share the sinner’s way, or be found in the company of cruel scoundrels. Pure delight.
-Psalms 1:1
-Psalms 1:1
109Limelite
If liberals no longer pride themselves on being the adults in the room, the bulwark against the whims of the mob, our national descent into chaos will be complete.
-- Thomas Chatterton Williams
110librorumamans
Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.
— Douglas Adams, Last Chance to See
— Douglas Adams, Last Chance to See
113Limelite
"Most people find facts irritating. Facts interfere with their systems of denial."
-- Walter Darby Bannard
114margd
What post apocalyptic movies get wrong is that
there’s never a scene with a bunch of middle class people throwing a tantrum because they can’t go to the Keg.
- David Moscrop (columnist) @David_Moscrop | 6:04 PM · Apr 4, 2021
there’s never a scene with a bunch of middle class people throwing a tantrum because they can’t go to the Keg.
- David Moscrop (columnist) @David_Moscrop | 6:04 PM · Apr 4, 2021
115margd
The generality of men are more capable of great efforts to obtain their ends than of continuous perseverance;
their occupation and inconstancy deprives them of the fruits of the most promising beginnings.
- Jean de La Bruyère, Caracters/Les Caractères ou Les mœurs de ce siècle, 1688
I have opposed the principle of gradual abolition; I think it may do more harm than good to trade. Allow me to make a joke: the system of gradual abolition reminds me of the man who, in order to cut off his dog’s tail without hurting him, cut off a little piece of it every day.
- John Prince Smith, Congress of economists convened by the Association belge pour la liberté commerciale, 1847.
Both quotes from "The Zero Covid strategy protects people and economies more effectively"
which observed, "This reasoning is still valid today. Seeking to contain Covid-19 within certain limits rather than eliminating it amounts to prolonging the problems instead of resolving them."
in https://www.institutmolinari.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/17/2021/03/etude-zero-...
their occupation and inconstancy deprives them of the fruits of the most promising beginnings.
- Jean de La Bruyère, Caracters/Les Caractères ou Les mœurs de ce siècle, 1688
I have opposed the principle of gradual abolition; I think it may do more harm than good to trade. Allow me to make a joke: the system of gradual abolition reminds me of the man who, in order to cut off his dog’s tail without hurting him, cut off a little piece of it every day.
- John Prince Smith, Congress of economists convened by the Association belge pour la liberté commerciale, 1847.
Both quotes from "The Zero Covid strategy protects people and economies more effectively"
which observed, "This reasoning is still valid today. Seeking to contain Covid-19 within certain limits rather than eliminating it amounts to prolonging the problems instead of resolving them."
in https://www.institutmolinari.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/17/2021/03/etude-zero-...
116Limelite
Presidential Upgrade from 'Stand Back and Stand By' Man
"We won't ignore what our intelligence agencies have determined to be the most lethal terrorist threat to our homeland today: White supremacy is terrorism." -- President Joe Biden 4/28/21
117John5918
From Daniel Berrigan, who would have been 100 next week.
1. The sponsors of war closely resemble the weapons they create. And smart bombs, depleted uranium, land mines, rockets and tanks, rather than protect 'widows and orphans and strangers at the gate,' are designed precisely to create 'widows and orphans,' to transform strangers into enemies and enemies into corpses.
2. Certainly the trouble is not that we do not want peace. We have seen enough war, we are sick of it, unto death. The war has come home like a stalking corpse, tailing its blood, its tears, its losses, its despairs — seeking like an American ghost the soul of America. We want the peace; but most of us do not want to pay the price of peace. We still dream of a peace that has no cost attached. We want peace, but we live content with poverty and injustice and racism, with the murder of prisoners and students, the despair of the poor to whom justice is endlessly denied. We long for peace, but we wish also to keep undisturbed a social fabric of privilege and power that controls the economic misery of two thirds of the world's people. Obviously there will be no genuine peace while such an inherently violent scheme of things continues. America will in time extricate herself from the bloody swamps, the ruined villages, the mutilated dead of Vietnam. But nothing will be settled there, nothing mitigated at home. Nothing changed, that is, until a change of heart leads us to a change of social structures in every area of our lives.
1. The sponsors of war closely resemble the weapons they create. And smart bombs, depleted uranium, land mines, rockets and tanks, rather than protect 'widows and orphans and strangers at the gate,' are designed precisely to create 'widows and orphans,' to transform strangers into enemies and enemies into corpses.
2. Certainly the trouble is not that we do not want peace. We have seen enough war, we are sick of it, unto death. The war has come home like a stalking corpse, tailing its blood, its tears, its losses, its despairs — seeking like an American ghost the soul of America. We want the peace; but most of us do not want to pay the price of peace. We still dream of a peace that has no cost attached. We want peace, but we live content with poverty and injustice and racism, with the murder of prisoners and students, the despair of the poor to whom justice is endlessly denied. We long for peace, but we wish also to keep undisturbed a social fabric of privilege and power that controls the economic misery of two thirds of the world's people. Obviously there will be no genuine peace while such an inherently violent scheme of things continues. America will in time extricate herself from the bloody swamps, the ruined villages, the mutilated dead of Vietnam. But nothing will be settled there, nothing mitigated at home. Nothing changed, that is, until a change of heart leads us to a change of social structures in every area of our lives.
118margd
A statesman is he who thinks in the future generations, and
a politician is he who thinks in the upcoming elections.
- Abraham Lincoln
a politician is he who thinks in the upcoming elections.
- Abraham Lincoln
119margd
The thug is aware that loudness convinces sixty persons where reasoning convinces but one.
- Samuel Clemens
- Samuel Clemens
120John5918
Quotes "which charmed Kenya" from the new Tanzanian President Samia Suluhu Hassan during her recent visit:
"We're here everybody with masks on our faces - and when I see people with masks on faces it reminds me in our village, when we go and do the herding with the goats, we protect them {with a muzzle} from eating the crops on the way… so we cover them the same way we are doing today… we have to do it."
"God has blessed these two countries to be neighbours. We have land and sea borders. And even our ecology is one. Even our animals are family and neighbours. There are these animals wildebeests, that come to get pregnant in Kenya and deliver in Tanzania… Now, if the animals had citizenship, what nationality would they be?"
She made a play on her name and that of her Kenyan counterpart, Uhuru Kenyatta, to urge businesses to boost trade links: "You are lucky that between our two countries, on one side you have 'Uhuru' {Swahili for freedom} to do business and on the other side there is 'Suluhu' {Swahili for solution} to remove trade barriers. The task is now on you."
Link
"We're here everybody with masks on our faces - and when I see people with masks on faces it reminds me in our village, when we go and do the herding with the goats, we protect them {with a muzzle} from eating the crops on the way… so we cover them the same way we are doing today… we have to do it."
"God has blessed these two countries to be neighbours. We have land and sea borders. And even our ecology is one. Even our animals are family and neighbours. There are these animals wildebeests, that come to get pregnant in Kenya and deliver in Tanzania… Now, if the animals had citizenship, what nationality would they be?"
She made a play on her name and that of her Kenyan counterpart, Uhuru Kenyatta, to urge businesses to boost trade links: "You are lucky that between our two countries, on one side you have 'Uhuru' {Swahili for freedom} to do business and on the other side there is 'Suluhu' {Swahili for solution} to remove trade barriers. The task is now on you."
Link
122margd
We all know the story about the man who sat by the trail too long, and then it grew over, and he could never find his way again. We can never forget what has happened, but we cannot go back. Nor can we just sit beside the trail.
Chief Poundmaker (Pitikwahanapiwiyin)
(1842 - 1886)
Quoted from Canadian Government Website
http://www.collectionscanada.ca/2/6/h6-234-e.html
Chief Poundmaker (Pitikwahanapiwiyin)
(1842 - 1886)
Quoted from Canadian Government Website
http://www.collectionscanada.ca/2/6/h6-234-e.html
123margd
When someone is trying to keep you scared and/or angry, they’re most likely doing it for their benefit, not yours.
- Brittlestar / Stewart Reynolds -The Internet's Favourite Dad*
*unproven
- Brittlestar / Stewart Reynolds -The Internet's Favourite Dad*
*unproven
124margd
We prefer to take our chance with cholera than be bullied into health.
There is nothing a man hates so much as being cleansed against his will.
(This gem of a quote is from circa 1850.)
- Apoorva Mandavilli (NYT) @apoorva_nyc | 10:16 PM · May 12, 2021
There is nothing a man hates so much as being cleansed against his will.
(This gem of a quote is from circa 1850.)
- Apoorva Mandavilli (NYT) @apoorva_nyc | 10:16 PM · May 12, 2021
125Limelite
Ask Liz Cheney
The men (and women) Americans admire most extravagantly are the most daring liars; the men (and women) they detest most violently are those who try to tell them the truth. -- H L Mencken
126John5918
"The Earth is not part of our human story; the human story is part of the Earth Story...What is demanded of us now is to change attitudes that are so deeply bound into our cultural patterns... In clinical language we are into a deep cultural pathology...In this situation we must return to our genetic structure and re-think who we are, where we fit into the community of existence, and what our proper role might be within this community....”
Thomas Berry
"Ethics and Ecology", a paper delivered to the Harvard Seminar on Environmental Values, April 9, 1996
Thomas Berry
"Ethics and Ecology", a paper delivered to the Harvard Seminar on Environmental Values, April 9, 1996
127margd
No person who can read
is ever successful at cleaning out an attic.
-Ann Landers
Norman Rockwell typ illustration- https://www.facebook.com/anotherlookbooks/photos/a.10152270832710380/10159379129...
is ever successful at cleaning out an attic.
-Ann Landers
Norman Rockwell typ illustration- https://www.facebook.com/anotherlookbooks/photos/a.10152270832710380/10159379129...
129librorumamans
In the comments following an ArsTechnica story on Hacker-X is a link to a similar NPR interview about disinformation media sites that contains this interchange (emphasis is mine):
When did you notice that fake news does best with Trump supporters?
. . . This isn't something that started with Trump. This is something that's been in the works for a while. His whole campaign was this thing of discrediting mainstream media sources, which is one of those dog whistles to his supporters. When we were coming up with headlines it's always kind of about the red meat. Trump really got into the red meat. He knew who his base was. He knew how to feed them a constant diet of this red meat.
We've tried to do similar things to liberals. It just has never worked, it never takes off. You'll get debunked within the first two comments and then the whole thing just kind of fizzles out.
130kiparsky
>129 librorumamans: Surely "discrediting mainstream media" has been a popular pastime on the left for decades, no? "The New York Times is a tool of the State and Capital" has been a refrain that I've heard from folks on the left for my entire life. It's been nonsense the whole time, of course, but we can't pretend that there aren't those on the left who trumpet nonsense. I'd be willing to bet that there are those reading this group today who still believe this, and who consider themselves to be proudly of the left.
Similarly, the notion that liberals have some sort of army of fact-checkers and only believe true things is a complete non-starter - it seems to me that someone here is trying to play to their audience a little bit. It's an old trick: if you want your reader to buy what you're saying, start by assuring them that they're too clever to fall for any lies.
Similarly, the notion that liberals have some sort of army of fact-checkers and only believe true things is a complete non-starter - it seems to me that someone here is trying to play to their audience a little bit. It's an old trick: if you want your reader to buy what you're saying, start by assuring them that they're too clever to fall for any lies.
132librorumamans
>131 John5918:
I wasn't aware of that criterion. To adopt it would mean, I expect, moving the thread out of Pro and Con to another group.
Checking back to the original thread, I find in its OP:
Here's a place to share quotations from the public sphere of politics and economics and policy.
I wasn't aware of that criterion. To adopt it would mean, I expect, moving the thread out of Pro and Con to another group.
Checking back to the original thread, I find in its OP:
Here's a place to share quotations from the public sphere of politics and economics and policy.
135margd
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears.
It was their final, most essential command.
- George Orwell
It was their final, most essential command.
- George Orwell
136John5918
“In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus caritas” translated variously as “in essentials unity, in non-essentials liberty, and in all things charity,” or, “unity in necessary things; liberty in doubtful things; charity in all things.”
I've always liked this quote, particularly the last part, "in all things charity". Recently I looked it up online, and found that while it is often attributed to St Augustine, it doesn't appear in his writings and is likely a much later saying.
I've always liked this quote, particularly the last part, "in all things charity". Recently I looked it up online, and found that while it is often attributed to St Augustine, it doesn't appear in his writings and is likely a much later saying.
137John5918
The ruthless bombing from the air of civilians in unfortified centres
of population during the course of the hostilities which have raged in
various quarters of the earth during the past few years, which has
resulted in the maiming and in the death of thousands of
defenceless men, women, and children, has sickened the hearts of
every civilised man and woman, and has profoundly shocked the
conscience of humanity.
If resort is had to this form of inhuman barbarism hundreds of
thousands of innocent human beings who have no responsibility for,
and who are not even remotely participating in, the hostilities which
have now broken out, will lose their lives. I am therefore addressing
this urgent appeal to every government which may be engaged in
hostilities publicly to affirm its determination that its armed forces
shall in no event, and under no circumstances, undertake the
bombardment from the air of civilian populations . I request an
immediate reply.
US President Franklin D. Roosevelt to “the Governments of France, Germany, Italy, Poland and His Britannic Majesty” on 1 September 1939.
Sadly, within a few short years this same speaker had reneged on his appeal to "in no event, and under no circumstances, undertake the bombardment from the air of civilian populations" and had ordered the "ruthless bombing from the air of civilians in unfortified centres of population" which "resulted in the maiming and in the death of thousands of defenceless men, women, and children, has sickened the hearts of every civilised man and woman, and has profoundly shocked the conscience of humanity".
138margd
"If you believe the doctors, nothing is wholesome;
if you believe the theologians, nothing is innocent;
if you believe the military, nothing is safe."
-Robert Gascoyne-Cecil, 3rd Marquess of Salisbury, British PM
"At some point, it's the job of politicians to decide: we're safe enough"
- David Frum
if you believe the theologians, nothing is innocent;
if you believe the military, nothing is safe."
-Robert Gascoyne-Cecil, 3rd Marquess of Salisbury, British PM
"At some point, it's the job of politicians to decide: we're safe enough"
- David Frum
1392wonderY
“ It actually doesn’t take much to be considered a difficult woman. That’s why there are so many of us."
Jane Goodall
Jane Goodall
140margd
And indeed it could be said that once the faintest stirring of hope became possible, the dominion of plague was ended.
- Albert Camus
- Albert Camus
141John5918
The Work of Christmas
When the song of the angels is stilled,
When the star in the sky is gone,
When the kings and princes are home,
When the shepherds are back with their flock,
The work of Christmas begins:
To find the lost,
To heal the broken,
To feed the hungry,
To release the prisoner,
To rebuild the nations,
To bring peace among others,
To make music in the heart.
Howard Thurman - Author, poet, philosopher, theologian, educator, civil rights leader, and spiritual mentor to Martin Luther King Jr, from The Mood of Christmas (1973)
When the song of the angels is stilled,
When the star in the sky is gone,
When the kings and princes are home,
When the shepherds are back with their flock,
The work of Christmas begins:
To find the lost,
To heal the broken,
To feed the hungry,
To release the prisoner,
To rebuild the nations,
To bring peace among others,
To make music in the heart.
Howard Thurman - Author, poet, philosopher, theologian, educator, civil rights leader, and spiritual mentor to Martin Luther King Jr, from The Mood of Christmas (1973)
143margd
"We should preserve every scrap of biodiversity as priceless
while we learn to use it and come to understand what it means to humanity."
"Destroying rainforest for economic gain is like burning a Renaissance painting to cook a meal"
- E.O. Wilson
(RIP: Dec 26, 2021)
while we learn to use it and come to understand what it means to humanity."
"Destroying rainforest for economic gain is like burning a Renaissance painting to cook a meal"
- E.O. Wilson
(RIP: Dec 26, 2021)
144librorumamans
>143 margd: E.O. Wilson
(RIP: Dec 26, 2021)
Oh, my! I hadn't seen that reported. He has had a considerable influence on my thinking about the world.
(RIP: Dec 26, 2021)
Oh, my! I hadn't seen that reported. He has had a considerable influence on my thinking about the world.
145margd
>145 margd: Wilson will be missed all right... Here's another quote:
“This is the assembly of life that took a billion years to evolve. It has eaten the storms-folded them into its genes-and created the world that created us. It holds the world steady.”
“This is the assembly of life that took a billion years to evolve. It has eaten the storms-folded them into its genes-and created the world that created us. It holds the world steady.”
146Limelite
Desmond Tutu (1931-2021)
If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor. If an elephant has its foot on the tail of a mouse and you say that you are neutral, the mouse will not appreciate your neutrality.
Do your little bit of good where you are; it's those little bits of good put together that overwhelm the world.
I am not interested in picking up crumbs of compassion thrown from the table of someone who considers himself my master. I want the full menu of rights.
If you want peace, you don't talk to your friends. You talk to your enemies.
We inhabit a universe that is characterized by diversity.
A person is a person because he recognizes others as persons.
147John5918
“The Labour party is a deeply patriotic party. Keir Hardie once said that British socialism must ‘wear a local garb’. He meant that British socialism was rooted in the everyday concerns of working people.”
Keir Starmer quoting Keir Hardie (here)
Keir Starmer quoting Keir Hardie (here)
148John5918
“When the ox comes to the palace, he does not become a king. But the palace becomes a barn.”
Turkish proverb, which a journalist has just been arrested for posting online (link). I can think of a number of world leaders to whom it could be aptly applied.
Turkish proverb, which a journalist has just been arrested for posting online (link). I can think of a number of world leaders to whom it could be aptly applied.
149Kuiperdolin
I can think of immigrants to whom it applies too.
151librorumamans
>149 Kuiperdolin:
That's an observation that can validly be made of any number of individuals, many of them pure laine.
That's an observation that can validly be made of any number of individuals, many of them pure laine.
152Limelite
>149 Kuiperdolin:
Spoken like a "true" Quebecois.
Remember, "No one ever leaves home unless home is the mouth of a shark." -- Warsan Shire (Somali-British poet and immigrant)
Spoken like a "true" Quebecois.
Remember, "No one ever leaves home unless home is the mouth of a shark." -- Warsan Shire (Somali-British poet and immigrant)
1532wonderY
“ I would never support censorship. And because I am a writer, I know that language matters. There’s a difference between censorship and curation. When we are not free to express ourselves, when we can be thrown in jail or even lose our lives for speaking freely, that is censorship. When we say, as a society, that bigotry and misinformation are unacceptable, and that people who espouse those ideas don’t deserve access to significant platforms, that’s curation. We are expressing our taste and moral discernment, and saying what we find acceptable and what we do not.”
Roxane Gay
Roxane Gay
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