Ancient DNA solves mystery of the Canaanites

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Ancient DNA solves mystery of the Canaanites

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1clamairy
jul 27, 2017, 11:37pm

Ancient DNA solves mystery of the Canaanites, and reveals the biblical people’s fate.

From The Washington Post:
http://wapo.st/2tN4NMX

2stellarexplorer
jul 28, 2017, 2:02am

Sounds kind of like the Neanderthal's fate too...

3Macumbeira
jul 28, 2017, 3:08am

Not exterminated but dissolved

4clamairy
jul 28, 2017, 8:35am

Assimilated.

5Macumbeira
jul 28, 2017, 8:43am

coercive assimilation or consensual assimilation ?

6clamairy
Redigeret: jul 28, 2017, 10:56am

I'm guessing there was a bit of both!

7PhaedraB
jul 28, 2017, 11:21am

People being people, yeah, it's a good bet that sometimes it was consensual and sometimes coercive.

8Rood
jul 28, 2017, 7:34pm

Beware of Greeks bearing gifts.

The story of the Canaanites may be a lot more complicated. As revealed in recent archaelogical investigations .... the Israelites "were" Canaanites. See the fascinating NOVA special "The Bible's Buried Secrets" ... particularly from 23:00 to 51:00 +, which discusses the Exodus from Egypt into Canaan. See:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qalTJzk4kO0

9stellarexplorer
jul 28, 2017, 11:00pm

>8 Rood: True. I remember finding that NOVA notably fascinating

10alaudacorax
jul 29, 2017, 3:28am

That's a sobering reminder of how much information simply disappears from the historical and archaeological record over time.

11Muscogulus
jul 30, 2017, 11:49am

>1 clamairy: (from the Washington Post) "The comparison revealed that 90 percent of the genetic ancestry of people in Lebanon came from the Canaanites."

Whatever else happens, this should create a sensation in Lebanon. Probably a complex reaction, as Lebanon is the only mostly Arab country that is also mostly Christian, so it's the most influenced by the biblical portrayal of Canaanites as despicable pagans and enemies of the Lord. (The Quran has no ax to grind concerning Canaanites.) OTOH the evidence of a stable ancient lineage should be a source of national pride in a country often bullied by stronger neighbors.

12pmackey
aug 14, 2017, 11:52am

What am I missing? I would think it expected that the current population of the region has genetic ties to the ancient past. I always thought (don't know why) that Canaanites for the most part was just another name for Phoenicians. So, I see this as an interesting development but not unexpected. I'm curious to understand the ramifications of this discovery.

13cpg
aug 14, 2017, 12:00pm

>11 Muscogulus:

Lebanon is 40.4% Christian according to the 2014 CIA World Factbook.

14stellarexplorer
aug 14, 2017, 12:05pm

>12 pmackey: I saw it as confirming expectations, verifying a genetic continuity over a long stretch of time rather than finding some unexpected discontinuity -- not a radical or surprising finding. It reminds me of the finding that contemporary Jews have much in common with Middle Eastern peoples despite having left the area 2000 years ago, even if they have been living, for example, in Russia for the last several hundred years.

15pmackey
aug 14, 2017, 1:20pm

>14 stellarexplorer: Good. I was afraid I missed something.