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1Familiar_Diversions
aug 21, 2016, 5:29 pm

I'm Familiar Diversions (or FD) on Booklikes. I haven't actually participated in many LibraryThing groups, and I've never started one before, but I figured I'd give this a go. Feel free to introduce yourself here.

2BrokenTune
Redigeret: aug 21, 2016, 5:33 pm

Hi. I'm testing the water with LT at the moment and will add more to my profile in a little bit. Same handle (Broken Tune) as on Booklikes and GR.

3nospi
aug 21, 2016, 5:33 pm

Nospin here. I haven't been on in a while

4Familiar_Diversions
aug 21, 2016, 5:36 pm

I already dislike that I didn't get a notification that someone had posted here. I just thought to check the Group page, which told me I had one unread message - which is fine, if I remember to check. I had sort of been hoping it would register in the little notification area at the top of the page next to my name, the way invitations do.

5BrokenTune
aug 21, 2016, 5:53 pm

Hm, the lack of notifications is a concern. I didn't see anything either and would have never known if you hadn't mentioned it on BL, FD.

6YouKneeK
aug 21, 2016, 5:55 pm

Hi, it's YouKneeK. :) I've been on LT for a while but really haven't done anything except echo reviews here. I love some aspects of it, but hate the lack of social features. Since it seems like most LT members do their socializing via groups, I've recently thought about trying to get more involved in one of the review groups where people each maintain their own thread to talk about what they're reading and just see how that works out.

7All_Hail_Grimlock
aug 21, 2016, 5:59 pm

I'm still Grimlock.

Still into robots.

Still kinda only semi-present on LT and mostly on BL.

8Familiar_Diversions
aug 21, 2016, 5:59 pm

Dang it, even starring a topic doesn't cause notification to appear. That's really disappointing.

Looks like the best way to keep track of conversations is via the method YouKneeK mentioned on BL: star a topic (at the top of the topic's page, underneath the group name) and then periodically visit the "Starred" section of the Talk page (https://www.librarything.com/talk - "Starred" can be found on the column on the left, since I can't seem to directly link to it). That's going to take a lot of adjusting.

9YouKneeK
aug 21, 2016, 6:01 pm

I agree, if I were to become active here, I would hate the lack of notifications. I went nuts when the BL e-mail notifications were down, so I would really go crazy if we didn’t even have online notifications here.

I wonder if there’s a way to get them and we just haven’t figured it out?

10BrokenTune
aug 21, 2016, 6:05 pm

Ha! No, I tried starring, too. Great minds, eh?

11Familiar_Diversions
aug 21, 2016, 6:11 pm

Aw, I miss the ability to "like" people's comments too.

There's a Welcome to LibraryThing group for newbies (http://www.librarything.com/groups/welcometolibrarythin), so I may dig around there to see if anyone has asked about getting notifications for group comments.

12YouKneeK
aug 21, 2016, 6:14 pm

One of the good features of the site… you can search for anything. I put “talk notifications” in the Search bar in the top-right, then clicked on “Talk” to see if there were any discussions about notifications.

Most of the posts I found were really old, but everything I did find implied it couldn’t be done for group discussions. Only notifications of comments people make on your profile page.

13Familiar_Diversions
aug 21, 2016, 6:16 pm

Hmm, looks like it's sorta been asked already: http://www.librarything.com/topic/179418

What it seems to come down to is that Tim Spalding, the site's creator, isn't really a fan of the idea of notifications for new posts in groups. ::sigh:: This reminds me of a conversation I had with a long-time LT user about comments on reviews. I think LT's most established members really don't like the idea of that sort of interaction, and the site's creator agrees with them. Like a lot of things on the site, it's a completely different mindset from sites like BL and GR.

14YouKneeK
aug 21, 2016, 6:24 pm

That is the most frustrating aspect of this site to me – the complete opposition to basic social features at the highest level. I understand that a lot of people like the site the way it is, and I can understand giving priority to the people who make up your core member base. It's encouraging to see that, actually.

But I don’t understand why they can’t implement the features in an optional way that wouldn't affect long-time members who want no part of them, while opening the door for members like us who are more interested in the social aspects of the site. People could disable comments on their reviews from a profile setting if they didn't want to receive comments. And if people don’t want notifications about new comments on a thread, then they could just not sign up for them.

I guess it's a matter of prioritizing the work they do on the site, and they have other things that are a bigger priority for their members.

15Familiar_Diversions
aug 21, 2016, 6:26 pm

YouKneeK ::nods:: Or the social features could be implemented but automatically switched off unless users chose otherwise. If you want people to comment on your reviews, you have to go into your profile settings and turn that feature on, that sort of thing.

16Familiar_Diversions
aug 21, 2016, 6:28 pm

Oh look, I accidentally learned a new thing. Putting @ in front of a username automatically turns that into a link to their profile.

17YouKneeK
aug 21, 2016, 6:29 pm

True, that would be the best way to do it, to avoid angering their existing member base.

18YouKneeK
aug 21, 2016, 6:29 pm

I think putting > in front of the message # is supposed to do something also...
>16 Familiar_Diversions:

19YouKneeK
aug 21, 2016, 6:29 pm

Yep, links to the message being replied to. :)

20Familiar_Diversions
aug 21, 2016, 6:32 pm

Thank you! Now I've learned another new thing. :)

21Ilirwen
aug 21, 2016, 6:55 pm

I'm Ilirwen on Booklikes. It's great that we'll be able to keep in touch here, despite the lack of notifications.

22Familiar_Diversions
Redigeret: aug 21, 2016, 7:01 pm

Hi, Ilirwen/MilliLinnea! :)

23Linda_Hilton
aug 21, 2016, 7:36 pm

Well, here's trouble. I have no clue what I'm doing. I don't really want another site to navigate through. More than anything, however, I'm afraid BL will poof! the way LM did. So there you have it, and here I am.

24Familiar_Diversions
aug 21, 2016, 7:48 pm

>23 Linda_Hilton:

And LibraryThing has some pretty steep learning curves, unfortunately. Well, like I said on BL, even if this site doesn't work out for people, it's at least someplace other than GR that folks can drop by and say where they are/will be moving to. I'd hope that the Booklikes staff would give us some warning before shutting down, but I don't trust them to do even that much at this point.

25Crypto-Willobie
Redigeret: aug 21, 2016, 9:05 pm

If you add the TALK module to your homepage and keep it clicked on YOUR POSTS you'll see pretty easily when there is a new post in a thread you've posted to. And right next to YOUR POSTS is YOUR GROUPS where you can see threads in groups you belong to, even if you haven't posted in them yet.

That module can be found over to the left of your Home Page under Dashboard> Community> Talk

edited to fix typos

26Familiar_Diversions
aug 21, 2016, 8:33 pm

>25 Crypto-Willobie:

Thanks for the info!

27murderbydeath
aug 21, 2016, 9:15 pm

::waves:: Hi everybody! Just found out about this from Familiar_Diversions post on BookLikes (long may it live). Very happy to see so many familiar faces. :)

28Familiar_Diversions
aug 21, 2016, 9:24 pm

Hey there, Murder By Death! :)

29TheYodamom
aug 21, 2016, 10:17 pm

Hi, I have never gone into groups here before. O don;t even know how to join. It's me Yodamom

30TheYodamom
aug 21, 2016, 10:18 pm

I got it, I joined up. Hey there Groupies :D

31Familiar_Diversions
aug 21, 2016, 10:21 pm

Hey there, Yodamom! :)

32murderbydeath
aug 21, 2016, 10:26 pm

Hey Yodamom!

33krazykiwi
aug 22, 2016, 1:01 pm

Well hey, and hi there.

I just discovered that at some point, apparently in 2011, I not only made an account here but I have a lifetime membership. I have no idea when or how that bit happened though. I haven't ever really used it though, although I seem to have imported a CSV or two at some point.

34Familiar_Diversions
aug 22, 2016, 1:10 pm

Hi there, Krazykiwi! And hey, nice discovery. :)

35casvelyn
aug 22, 2016, 2:08 pm

>33 krazykiwi: They handed out free lifetime memberships to a bunch of people a while back. I don't remember why now.

The reason the social side of the site is so different from other book sites is that LT started as a cataloging site, something more similar to what a public library would use. The social stuff was added later and was never really "the point" of the site. Not that lots of long-time users don't want to see improvements to the social aspect, but just that the underlying philosophy of the site is different. It's also why Add Books doesn't work the way anyone expects; because the main focus is cataloging, everything is programmed with the idea that you don't just want to note that you own, say Pride and Prejudice, but that you own this exact edition of Pride and Prejudice.

The cataloging focus is why I'm on here as opposed to other book sites, but it certainly creates a learning curve when people come in from other sites.

36.Monkey.
aug 22, 2016, 2:18 pm

>35 casvelyn: They've been handed out on several occasions for various reasons. Tim's mindset is pretty much, if it will help people transitioning, or help smooth over ruffled feathers from something, why not hand out accounts, the more active users the better.
As to all the rest of that, yes.

LT is first and foremost about cataloging. Any social aspects are just extras. They will never be a main thing like GR. And there are various reasons many of us are against things like comments on reviews.

As >25 Crypto-Willobie: says, you can just set Talk to Your groups, and see when new posts are added to threads in the groups you belong to. There's really no need to be inundated by notifications, which would get ridiculous with the amount of posts made in Talk.

37krazykiwi
aug 22, 2016, 2:26 pm

Well, however I came by it, I appreciate it :) I'll likely donate anyway if I do stick around this time.

I just spent a little while playing with the cataloguing features on a couple of books, and now that I understand how it works - that I'm editing MY copy of the book but based on the crowdsourced common "work", wow, this stuff is powerfully nice once that lightbulb went off. And also, the GR CSV I just used to import from is a big old mess (books without isbn's, all the series info in the titles, etc.) Fixing this lot up is probably going to take a while, I might have been better to export a CSV from Calibre and start from there. Oh well, live and learn.

38.Monkey.
aug 22, 2016, 2:48 pm

>37 krazykiwi: You can wipe it and import a different file if you want to. Power edit makes that simple. :)

39EmpressReece
aug 22, 2016, 7:22 pm

Hi guys,
Reece (Hooked on Books) here from BL...

40Ilirwen
aug 22, 2016, 8:56 pm

Oops. I didn't know you'd replied. Hi, Familiar_Diversions. :)

41Familiar_Diversions
Redigeret: aug 22, 2016, 10:57 pm

>40 Ilirwen:

Yeah, following responses and conversations on LT takes some getting used to. I'm doing slightly better at that now that I'm making use of Crypto-Willobie's advice (comment 25).

42murderbydeath
aug 22, 2016, 11:15 pm

I just got your friend request notification in my email. :)

Does anyone else still get the "pirate speak" site when they click the link from the email? My "click to accept this invitation" is linked to http://pir.librarything.com/

43amcheri
aug 23, 2016, 8:34 am

Hey - I was poking around in groups and saw this one. I'm Cheri of Cheri's Book Blog on BL. Thanks for all the great info on tracking new posts!

44murderbydeath
aug 26, 2016, 6:37 am

Geez, I had JUST finished changing up my blog, and BookLikes goes down...

I hope they're down for good reasons, and I hope they're back up soon.

45Familiar_Diversions
aug 26, 2016, 9:39 am

BL was down earlier? Hm. I hope that means they were working on something. The closer it gets to the end of the month, the more I worry that the site will go down forever. If no one's paying the bills anymore, the end of the month is when I'd assume things would expire.

46.Monkey.
aug 27, 2016, 4:48 am

>45 Familiar_Diversions: It is incredibly unlikely that their domain/hosting bills are actually at the end of the month. Even if they're on a monthly basis for their hosting and not annual, the due date is whatever date it was they that they initially purchased the package.

47Familiar_Diversions
aug 27, 2016, 9:45 am

Hmm, so there's really no way to tell when the site will go down if no one's around anymore. Well, dang.

48BookstoogeLT
aug 27, 2016, 9:46 pm

Dipping my toe in the water here. I had signed up a couple of years ago, quit and had my account deleted, so when I tried to rejoin, they told me that Bookstooge was taken. So BookstoogeLT it is.

I think I've recovered enough from my excursions into TheReadingRoom and Anobii to try out another site....

49YouKneeK
aug 28, 2016, 9:12 am

It’s good to see some more familiar faces. Bookstooge, somehow it seems weird to see you anywhere else. :) I guess because I’ve already seen most of the others on GR.

I keep forgetting this group is here. I’ve had the Talk module on my home page pretty much since the day I signed up 2.5 years ago, but it doesn’t do me much good if I’m not looking at LT in the first place. Since I’m not in the habit of socializing here, I usually only come here to echo a new review. I need those e-mail notifications to draw me back…

50murderbydeath
sep 9, 2016, 6:46 pm

BookLikes seems to be down again. :(

51TheYodamom
sep 10, 2016, 12:24 am

Down down down :( Will it be back ? I wish they'd reach out with a notification

52murderbydeath
sep 10, 2016, 3:49 am

I actually sent a PM to Joanne through Facebook, although I doubt she'll do more than block me for the effort.

53murderbydeath
sep 10, 2016, 4:12 am

It's back up now...

54Familiar_Diversions
sep 12, 2016, 8:25 am

Oh wow, my online time has been sporadic lately and I somehow managed to miss the downtime. Glad BL came back up, but I hate that there's still zero communication. :-(

55TheYodamom
okt 9, 2016, 7:11 pm

BL is offline. I am getting a 502 error message which I've not gotten before. Is everyone else getting this?

56Familiar_Diversions
okt 9, 2016, 8:35 pm

>55 TheYodamom: Yup. It's different from the last time I had problems getting onto the site. I'm wondering if this means it's really and truly gone for good now. :(

57murderbydeath
okt 9, 2016, 8:47 pm

I'm getting the same error I've gotten previously. 522 Connection timed out. They're down, but again, it's 2am in Poland so they likely don't know it's down. I doubt they'd ever take their systems offline for good at 2am. Small consolation, but... :)

58Familiar_Diversions
okt 9, 2016, 8:58 pm

>57 murderbydeath: That's somewhat encouraging. All my previous Booklikes error pages included some form of Booklikes imagery, so this freaked me out a bit.

59murderbydeath
okt 9, 2016, 9:20 pm

Ah, mine shows the cloud flare graphics saying that I'm up, Cloud Flare is up, but the host is down, which is usually what I get when their server throws a hissy.

60murderbydeath
okt 10, 2016, 4:55 am

They're back up. Just when I thought the worst was happening...

Learned a lot about how to use Library Thing today though. :\

61ktho
okt 10, 2016, 6:52 pm

Hello :)

I'm a writer and a reader who is trying to figure out how to sync up my BookLikes and my LibraryThing, neither of which I've used as much as I'd like to, and I want to really get into both and become more familiar and agile with them.

A friend of mine who is a librarian - ergo a Goddess - recommended LibraryThing to me a few years back and I'm so glad she did :)

62murderbydeath
okt 11, 2016, 12:43 am

Unfortunately, ktho, there isn't any automated way to sync up BookLike and LibraryThing, much to all our grief. I've just spent 2.5 hours myself, copy/pasting reviews from BL to here and I'm trying not to think about how many more hours are ahead of me (because i was lazy and didn't do this as I went). :P

63.Monkey.
okt 11, 2016, 9:05 am

Booklikes doesn't have any sort of export?

64Familiar_Diversions
okt 11, 2016, 2:22 pm

>63 .Monkey.: Nope, no export. It was one of the reasons why, when I stopped using Goodreads and moved to Booklikes, I also got myself a LibraryThing account and put every review I posted on Booklikes on LibraryThing as well - the lack of ability to export anything was a huge concern for me. Booklikes staff promised that exporting was a feature they were planning to add, but it never happened, and with the issues they've been having in the past year, I doubt it ever will.

65.Monkey.
okt 11, 2016, 3:09 pm

Ahh, yeah that sucks. :/

66Spurts
okt 15, 2016, 11:25 pm

Just saw the invite to this group. I'm "Debbie's Spurts" on booklikes at http://donealrice.booklikes.com.

I'm not here much and not really liking it.

But, it has an export/backup where I've been trying to echo reviews and book shelvings here.

Like others have said upthread, it's also a safety net for finding where everyone moves on to in the event booklikes closes. I really don't trust goodreads any more. If booklikes goes defunct like Leafmarks and Shelfari, I will look on goodreads to see the moving on posts there but have zero confidence friends won't have deleted their goodreads accounts or that goodreads won't have deleted their accounts.

67Ilirwen
okt 17, 2016, 3:28 pm

:( Booklikes is having problems again. I'm very much afraid it won't be around for much longer. That's so sad. I'll never find a site like that again. Though why shouldn't someone copy their idea if the Booklikes people won't be using it anymore?

68Familiar_Diversions
okt 17, 2016, 7:50 pm

>67 Ilirwen: Someone else could try to start their own site, but I have a feeling it'd end up just like Booklikes or Leafmarks. :-( I'll really miss the social aspects of BL when it goes down for good.

69murderbydeath
okt 18, 2016, 5:12 am

BL is screaming fast at the moment, and has been for the last several hours.

70Familiar_Diversions
okt 21, 2016, 7:08 am

>69 murderbydeath: Yes, it's nice. Crossing my fingers for the weekend - that seems to be when things break or slow down most often.

71All_Hail_Grimlock
dec 9, 2016, 3:32 pm

Wow, I haven't been here for a while. Saving all my reviews from BL just in case I need to get to them/import them elsewhere after BL collapses - if it does - even if I have to do so manually.

72Familiar_Diversions
dec 9, 2016, 9:47 pm

>71 All_Hail_Grimlock: Have you been able to get onto BL at all? I heard something about a BL employee finally pushing out a blog post there a few hours ago, but no one mentioned what it said.

73YouKneeK
dec 9, 2016, 10:00 pm

>72 Familiar_Diversions: It wasn’t terribly informative, but a BL staff member by the name of Kate (apparently the same Kate who used to provide communication a while back, maybe before my time) posted to the BookLikes blog saying that they were back up and broadcasting again, apologizing for all the issues, and basically implying that they were ready to start working on and improving the site again.

It was a fairly generic post that didn’t provide any actual, tangible info. I’m still skeptical, but we’ll see. We’ve heard it all before, but it did sound a little more sincere this time and at least they actually put it on their blog. She was replying to comments for a while. And then of course the site went down. :) It’s been down for a few hours now.

When I first saw somebody say there was a blog post from BL, my first thought was that they were announcing that they were shutting it down.

74YouKneeK
dec 9, 2016, 10:02 pm

>71 All_Hail_Grimlock: Grimlock, thanks for your post on BL about the free lifetime account for trying TinyCat! I just saw a glimpse of your post and then didn't get a chance to go back and read it in more detail before the site went down. But it was enough that I was able to seek it out, try it, and get the lifetime account. I thought I was going to have to wait a couple more months until they released the Android app, so I really appreciated the info.

75Familiar_Diversions
dec 9, 2016, 10:30 pm

>73 YouKneeK: Thanks for the info about the post! Although, geez, considering the content of the post it's pretty embarrassing that the site didn't manage to stay up for more than a few hours after that.

76YouKneeK
dec 10, 2016, 6:23 am

>75 Familiar_Diversions: That’s for sure.

What really exasperates me is that it’s now afternoon in Poland, BL is still down, and they haven’t even posted anything on their Facebook site to acknowledge the issue or let us know they’re working on it. I thought surely by the time I woke up, even if the site wasn’t up yet, there would be some sort of message from staff now that they’re “back”.

I can't take their post seriously if they still aren’t communicating when it really matters.

77.Monkey.
dec 10, 2016, 6:26 am

It is noon in Poland ...on Saturday. I wouldn't expect too much of any site until the work week, personally.

78YouKneeK
dec 10, 2016, 7:28 am

>77 .Monkey.: Who are you on BL? Did you see the post, and the comments in response to it? Have experienced the constant problems on BL over the past few months? Usually I expect nothing, whether it’s during business hours or not, because “nothing” is what we will get. I just roll my eyes when the site is unusable and go do something else.

The difference now is that staff has just told its members they’re engaged with us again. If they’re serious, I expect them to put in some extra time and effort to prove it. Server alerts would tell them the site is down. Even if nobody is available to fix it, it only takes a couple minutes to put up a quick post. Thanks to smartphones, people can now send messages without ever getting out of bed.

79YouKneeK
dec 10, 2016, 8:27 am

At last, a post from staff. That’s a little encouraging… now if we can just convince them to be more timely in the future. :) (Thanks to Tannat who posted about it over on GR.)

“Update: Works are in progress to make everything smooth on BookLikes again. So sorry for any inconvenience and thank your for your patience.”

https://www.facebook.com/BookLikes/

80.Monkey.
Redigeret: dec 10, 2016, 8:29 am

I don't recall my name there lol. I joined because it looked potentially interesting and spent some time exploring, but I kept hearing about all kinds of constant problems so I didn't want to spend much time there only to get frustrated, heh.

Yes, it would be better if directly following a post of that sort the site didn't go down and didn't then have a lack of response, but it's still a weekend and they're clearly not a large business, so, eh.

81BookstoogeLT
dec 10, 2016, 9:56 am

Well, this fiasco has put the final nail in booklikes coffin.

82All_Hail_Grimlock
dec 10, 2016, 2:10 pm

...

I still need to get some reviews there, at least. I still want to review there. I like the site itself.

We'll see what's what, though, come Monday?

83All_Hail_Grimlock
dec 10, 2016, 2:11 pm

You're welcome. Glad someone got something out of it :D

I didn't post much detail, just saying you could get it, which I got from the TinyCat group that I was signed up for when I got a TinyCat account.

Isn't TinyCat pretty, too?

84murderbydeath
dec 10, 2016, 5:18 pm

Kate was one of the founding employees and she is great! She used to do the Thursday posts and she was the primary face of BookLikes. Super responsive BUT BookLikes has never, ever, even at their very best, been at all forthcoming about details. They've never said 'we're doing this' or 'this happened' - they were not fans of tangible information then and I doubt they will be now.

Kate did post on Facebook that the BL site was brought down in order to rebuild the site and address (or make a start on addressing) the performance issues. I can't believe it's still down - it's a new record! but I can only believe it'll be better when it comes back up; you can't have a site down for this long and not fix SOMETHING.

I'm looking forward to seeing what's ahead - we finally got what we've been screaming for since June, so it would be pretty self-defeatist to leave now. :P

85BookstoogeLT
dec 10, 2016, 8:56 pm

Putting up a post on FB and not stating something on the website itself is why I'm done. I feel like a dog that has been loyal and had a decent house to stay in and some food but the owners kicked me around a lot and ignored me. I'm done with being kicked around and ignored.

86murderbydeath
dec 10, 2016, 10:48 pm

Do we know for sure they didn't post something on the site? I walked away early on after their initial post because I couldn't deal with the overwhelming negativity on my dashboard feed (it looked like FB pre-election), so if they did post a warning I would have missed it. Based on history I'd say they probably didn't but I learned early on what happens when I assume anything. :P

87BookstoogeLT
dec 11, 2016, 7:37 am

Well, I was onsite commenting on peoples' posts and trying to comment on the initial "we're on air" post right up until the site went offline. So the only place I didn't check was the Discussion area.

88murderbydeath
dec 11, 2016, 3:18 pm

Ah - so you'd have been much more likely to see any notice if there was one, and you'd like to think they'd post it on their blog, not the discussion area.

I can't believe how long they've been down now - I'm getting antsy but I'm also getting curious. There's no way they can be down this long and not fix a significant amount of problems.

89TheYodamom
dec 11, 2016, 8:27 pm

I have hope that they are fixing it but I fear it's down for good. Fingers crossed. It has been so long it's hard not to be negative at this point.

90murderbydeath
dec 11, 2016, 9:16 pm

I don't think Kate would be updating their BookLikes Facebook site if they were gone for good... I think they just decided they were bringing it down for as long as it took to fix the performance issues. And I wish they'd hurry up already... :-\

91YouKneeK
dec 11, 2016, 10:00 pm

Or the site went down unintentionally, and the tech staff was unavailable during the weekend, so they’re stalling until somebody is available to work on it. Or it went down unintentionally and they decided now was as good as any time to work on it, and it’s just taking a really long time. If they really planned to bring the site down and didn’t bother to mention it in their original blog post, that would not have been a wise move.

But who knows. They still don’t seem to grasp the whole “proactive communication” thing, because they only provide their vague updates on Facebook after somebody complains or asks about it. Maybe BL members can teach them how to communicate properly before it’s too late, but their old communication style is not going to suffice now that the general member sentiment is so understandably negative. It’s an improvement that they’re at least replying, and in a somewhat timely manner, but they have a long way to go.

I do think they intend to start trying to turn things around. The manner of communication from Kate sounded different and more believable to me, even if it had as little actual substance as the BL staff communication ever does. What I don’t know is whether they have the ability to do it, or how far they’re willing to go. They may have just stepped in to start communicating, without any long-term plans for improving the site, once they saw how many members were leaving. That in itself would indicate they do want to keep the site running or they would have just let people leave, but it doesn’t tell us anything about whether they just want to regain the status quo or really grow the site.

I’m just going to wait and see. If I cared more I might have left the site on principle, but then I would have done that months ago. I no longer look at BookLikes as my primary site, but it doesn’t hurt me to maintain my account there, post my reviews, and comment when I have something to say… just like I do on other sites. If they do turn things around and the site becomes fun to use again, then great. If they don’t, there really are other sites out there, and other good communities… all it takes is a willingness to adapt.

92murderbydeath
dec 12, 2016, 5:38 am

It's back up now for anyone interested and it's fast as hell.

93TheYodamom
dec 12, 2016, 12:46 pm

Holy Special Day it's working !

94Spurts
Redigeret: mar 24, 2017, 3:36 pm

And staff are posting and responding again.

I've gotten spoiled with how booklikes does/shows reviews and reading progresses -- other sites suffer in comparison.

95Familiar_Diversions
Redigeret: mar 27, 2017, 12:05 pm

>94 Spurts: Same. I cross-post book reviews in four different places, but the site I socialize on the most is Booklikes.

96ManWithAnAgenda
feb 18, 2019, 7:27 pm

A Man With An Agenda - After the discussion on Obsidian Blue's blog about the state of Booklikes I signed back up here. My old Goodreads export is a little behind things but it shouldn't take too long to add my newer reviews and fix dead links, etc.

A neat thing is that I had an account here ten years ago that I deleted, but signing up with my old e-mail got my lifetime membership back.

97YouKneeK
feb 23, 2019, 9:25 am

>96 ManWithAnAgenda: Hi ManWithAnAgenda. :) I think I left BL before you joined, or I just never ran across your blog there. I’ve been seeing your reviews show up on the “Reviews for Your Books” widget quite a bit lately though, since it looks like we have some similar reading interests and that widget shows reviews people post for books on one's own shelves.

I’ve been on LT for a while, but I started actively using it a little over 2 years ago and I’ve come to really enjoy it. Except for mattries3715, I’m the only person I know from BL who’s still active here. It’s a big adjustment after other sites, but it has worked for me better than I thought it would. I’ve especially come to enjoy the numbers-free atmosphere. I like just focusing on conversations, like the good old days of my youth before social media made “likes” a thing. :) But this site can be frustrating for people who are used to collecting numbers as part of their social interaction: likes, comments, friends, etc. As you’ve no doubt already seen, there are no comments on reviews. “Like” (thumbs up) usage is also really limited here. You don’t get notified when somebody likes a review and you have no way of knowing who gave it to you if you happen to notice it, so people don’t use them much.

The social action here is in the groups. There are a few groups where each member is welcome to maintain their own reading journal thread, which sort of becomes like a blog in a thread format. You post about what you’re reading, in whatever level of detail you want, and any other random things you want to talk about, and people read and comment when they want. I like how it becomes a kind of ongoing discussion as opposed to the more compartmentalized nature of BL or GR where you get a few comments on one post but the discussions tend to die out in a day or two since people aren’t likely to see comments added after they read the original post, unless they commented themselves, so they won’t be drawn into the conversation.

The group I’m in is The Green Dragon, which is theoretically more focused on Science Fiction and Fantasy (which is mostly what I read) but actually has several members who read very little SF&F. The group is very welcoming to random new members. A more popular group that also does the reading journal concept is the 75ers group, which creates a new group each year. I’ve looked at that group briefly but it’s a bit more active than I have time for. I’ll probably look into it more eventually, when I have more time on my hands to sort through the threads.

Anyway, sorry for the long post. I’m not in the loop on what’s going on over at BL any more, but I hope you’re able to get involved here on LT and find it to be a fun place to hang out either in addition to BL or instead of BL, depending on what you're looking for.

98ManWithAnAgenda
feb 25, 2019, 5:43 pm

No, thanks YouKneek for the long response it gives me a better idea of how LT works! I'm enjoying the site so far - still fiddling with my data - and I'll definitely check out some of those discussions.

Booklikes is still a lot of fun and I like the social aspects of it (there may be some number counting, but no where near what I used to run into on Goodreads). I only got worried that if the site were ever in jeopardy there would be no backup of my reviews or reading log.

99Familiar_Diversions
feb 26, 2019, 3:08 pm

Yeah, LibraryThing is really great if one of the things you're worried about is Booklikes' lack of ability to back up your reviews. It's one of the reasons why I used LibraryThing - it's nice to know I can export all of that data if I ever needed to.

100BrokenTune
mar 12, 2019, 12:16 pm

Thanks FD. I had no idea LT had an export function. I should probably update my books on LT way more often than I have.

101DarthPedant
mar 12, 2019, 5:13 pm

Darth Pony here. I followed TA's link on Bookish Blerd's post. I've been on LT for a while but have yet to follow through on my intention to back up all my reviews here (lolsob at BL's lack of export functionality). I'm currently using LT as a cataloging backup and for the scavenger hunts, so my presence here is pretty minimal.

102Jadedog13
mar 12, 2019, 11:14 pm

Reading is my Escape here. I have been on LT for a while and like Darth Pony followed TA's link on Bookish Blerd's post to this group. I love the scavenger hunts and basically use this as a backup as well. I guess it's good to have a place to connect with all our BL friends if things go south over there. *fingers crossed* that they don't, but realistically...

103Chrisethier
mar 13, 2019, 3:48 pm

Fish Shelf here. I use this, heavily, as a catalog for my books.

104chalton
jul 14, 2020, 10:58 pm

chalton here and charlton on BL and GR.This past weekend I've had so many problems with BL.I figured it was time.

105BrokenTune
jul 15, 2020, 5:14 am

>104 chalton: Hi Chalton. It seems that many of us felt the same way.

106BookstoogeLT
jul 17, 2020, 5:58 pm

I know I haven't been part of the BL community for several years, but my condolences to you all being forced to find alternatives. It's not easy, that is for sure.

But if you do settle down to LT, I hope you enjoy your time here.

Cheers...

107YouKneeK
jul 17, 2020, 8:20 pm

>106 BookstoogeLT: I've been trying to convince them that LT can be fun and providing subtle links to the Green Dragon at every opportunity (mostly in the BL group on GR), but I don't think I'm having much success yet. ;)

108BrokenTune
jul 18, 2020, 5:45 am

>106 BookstoogeLT: and >107 YouKneeK: : I am definitely spending a lot more time over here, and it's great to catch up with both of you again, too.
It seems like LT has thriving discussions and groups. I'm currently trying to follow a few that are discussing topics and books of interest.
Yes, the format is different, and of course it takes some time to get used to that and get involved, but I really like LT.

Oh, and The Green Dragon is a fun place.

109BookstoogeLT
jul 18, 2020, 6:40 am

>108 BrokenTune: Glad you're making it work. I know it was a big change for me when I came here from BL but I've gotten used to it. I figure if I can get used to it, any other BL'er can too :-D

110BrokenTune
jul 18, 2020, 6:48 am

> 109 Thank you for the words of encouragement and help so far.

111YouKneeK
jul 18, 2020, 7:17 am

>108 BrokenTune: I’m very glad you’re getting some enjoyment from it! The transition was a bit easier for me I think because I’d had more experience with message forums than blogs. BL was my first blog experience and made me more receptive to using that format, so this combination of doing what I saw as a “bloggy thing” (starting a thread and talking about myself, or at least my reading) in a message forum really worked for me.

112Lille_lara
jul 18, 2020, 2:17 pm

I cannot believe I didn´t say hello already. I´m Lillelara on Booklikes on Goodreads. Hi, everybody.

I find Librarything still a bit confusing and I don´t have the time right now to sit down and have a proper look at it. But I have three weeks worth of vacation in August, which gives me time to figure out how this site works. Tbh, I´m a bit weary of Goodreads and I don´t want to do too much on that site. So I would like to have someplace else to set up a new bookish home.

113RonWelton
jul 18, 2020, 4:04 pm

I'm a long time user of this site who has had much help from LT staff over the years. I find it to be a very comfortable and safe place to keep a record of what I have read - confess to much forgetfulness.

114Peregrinations
jul 18, 2020, 11:21 pm

Peregrinations here! Late to the party, as usual! Well, at least I am along for the ride and ready to see where it takes me.

115BrokenTune
jul 19, 2020, 8:01 am

>113 RonWelton: Hi Ron. Thanks for the encouragement to set up over here on LT. :D

116BrokenTune
jul 19, 2020, 8:11 am

>112 Lille_lara: Hi Lillelara. Three weeks of holiday sounds like heaven. What books have you lined up? ;)
I'm also wear of GR, not so much of interacting with a small number of groups and (non-BL) friends, but of using shelves and book data over there, and I can't say I look forward to going back to a place that is riddles with trolls.
Let's see what we can get set up over here.

117BrokenTune
jul 19, 2020, 8:12 am

>114 Peregrinations: Hi Pereginations! *BT waves*

118Lille_lara
Redigeret: jul 19, 2020, 1:37 pm

>116 BrokenTune: I don´t have a clue what I´m going to read ;). But it will be a reading vacation.

I´m still freaked out by the fact that random people can like and comment my status updates on Goodreads. It gives me an iffy feeling, because I know that said trolls are on that site. Overall, I feel much more sympathetic towards Librarything, so I am hopeful that this can be another nice, bookish place for us :)

119BrokenTune
jul 19, 2020, 1:40 pm

>118 Lille_lara: Yeah, the GR settings only really change when you set your account to private (friends only).

120Lille_lara
jul 19, 2020, 1:47 pm

>119 BrokenTune: I think my settings are friends only. And yet, non-friends can still like my reading updates. Apparently they can´t comment on them, though. Well, that´s at least something.
But why would I like to have some random status updates from an unknown person on my feed? Why does my stuff pop up on someone else´s feed? I don´t get it.

121chalton
jul 19, 2020, 10:26 pm

Hey >114 Peregrinations: Good to see you.

122Peregrinations
aug 1, 2020, 11:37 pm

I feel the same way. I have a bunch of old reviews and posts on GR that I get comments on every now and then but mostly, I ignore them. I no longer post reviews on GR and plan to continue that practice (not that I post that many to begin with).

I am following The Outpost and get an e-mail every morning with the last 24 hours worth of posts. I try not to post anything that can be seen outside of The Outpost, which is not easy because it means that I have to remember.

My catalog of my physical books is here. My audio-tomes are on a spreadsheet on my hardrive because I am not going to spend hours tracking down the ISBNs for the 1000 titles that I own.

I'm blogging on Blogger and I am trying to follow other blogs with an RSS feed (but mostly that is not working because most people have set up websites and not blogger feeds).

123Peregrinations
aug 1, 2020, 11:43 pm

> 117
*BT waves*

*P waves back* :-)) and at chalton, too