In search of a good Latin textbook
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I'm looking for the following:
1) Completeness: I'd like to have a rather complete representation of Latin grammar, something I could use along with a dictionary to read and understand books in Latin. I'd like to be able to work through the book from beginning to end, then have the tools to start reading in Latin.
2) Organization: I'd like it to be well-organized, and I'd like to feel like I'm learning Latin in a way that makes good sense. Basically, I want this book to be a good teacher. I don't want it to confuse me or leave me frustrated.
3) Price: It'd be nice to be able to find a used textbook online for less than $10.
Thank you in advance for any and all suggestions! I'm excited about learning Latin: I've studied the four major Romance languages, and I've studied a language with a case system that's very similar to Latin's (Mongolian). I'm hoping to be amazed and astounded by this new (old) language, and I hope that learning Latin will help me better understand English, Spanish and the other languages I enjoy studying.
So, what do you think? Are there any books you would recommend to the new student of Latin?
The Keller and Russell 'Learn to Read Latin' is a fantastic compendium but whether you could get one for around $10 is haird to know.
There is a great little course called 'Ecce Romani'; more attuned to the younger learner but good nonetheless (comes in a series)
Teach Yourself Books in general are great. Always plenty around used and also come with audio now.
If I had to choose from the above it would be the Keller.
I also appreciate a thorough grammar, not one that gives me snippets of grammar, bit by bit, only to later fill me in on the confusing (and maybe seemingly contradictory) grammar points. I feel confident enough in my language study to want the bigger picture. (Although I can't say that I really enjoy learning a language solely through a comprehensive, systematic grammar that isn't organized around specific lessons and exercises...)
Wheelock is nowhere near as good as Hansen & Quinn for Greek, for example, but it is still good and has a lot of shorter lessons, which is easier to manage with self study. And there are various supplements you can buy later, such as the Reader, which exposes you to a good variety of Latin texts (and helps out with good glossaries).
Nothing has changed regarding Keller in my previous post, but your price range would have to change.
There is a brilliant course which is dirt cheap written by Roger Pitcher that we used in Uni. It comes in two volumes: Grammar and Exercises published by Macquarie University, Sydney. Not sure if you could source it though.
It really depends on how far you wish to advance but at some point I would really recommend a good grammar book like Gildersleeves and a handy one like Kennedy.
As far as dictionaries go, I like the practicalities of Cassell's but the CT Lewis Elementary Latin Dictionary is very good despite the title. If money is no object then of course you can get Glare's Oxford or similar, but I think these are more for expert/research use.
If you're going to shell out a few hundred bucks, go with the full Lewis and Short, A Latin Dictionary. The great limitation of the full-size Oxford Latin Dictionary is that it arbitrarily limits itself to Latin before the end of the Roman Empire, whereas the full L&S includes a lot of medieval and Renaissance usages.
Or you could just access the full Lewis and Short online, together with the full Liddell and Scott Greek Lexicon and several others: http://archimedes.fas.harvard.edu/pollux/
Yes, unfortunately the Greek Liddle and Scott and the Lewis & Short are beyond many folks means. (I'm also looking at post 1. point 3)
You can find them at a good price if you're lucky, and keep an eye out.
Thanks so much for that information. A chance in a lifetime at that price.
Univ. of Chicago has finally gotten around to consolidating the dictionary databases of Perseus into an easily-searchable dictionary program that includes the big LSJ Greek Lexicon, the full Lewis and Short Latin Dictionary, and (important for medievalists) DuCange:
If you are just looking for a grammar, Allen and Greenough's New Latin Grammar
Textkit have this listed on their site. Obviously not copyrighted now. Download for free.
I put some links for texts (and the odd textbook) on a bookmarks page back when a beginner: http://dave.caorco.com/latin/#texts
*edited to add url