Robert Durick's Reading in 2011
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1Mr.Durick
The following are the books that so far I reckon to be the best, most engaging, or most important of my reading in 2010:
The Reformation
Wolf Among Wolves
Hamlet
The Given Day
Last Exit to Brooklyn
Rebecca
To Kill a Mockingbird
The Glass Room
Out Stealing Horses
Black Lamb and Gray Falcon
Khrushchev added after some deliberation; very informative
Special Mention, but not really first list players:
The Girl Who Played With Fire
The Girl Who Kicked the Hornet's Nest
Sh*t My Dad Says
Teh Itteh Bitteh Book of Kittehs
Good Explanations, and everybody should read them, but short of something that is important:
Too Big to Fail
13 Bankers
Secrets of the Temple
Justice
Best of All Possible Worlds
American Liberalism; added because I would like the many elements in this book to be part of the conversation.
I expect this list to change.
Robert
2Mr.Durick
Having seen the recent movie of The Tempest, I am pretty eager to read through it. It would be an evening's reading for the play, but I have the Norton Critical Edition and want to read all of the explanatory apparatus too. I have cracked the spine on this and expect a real start on it today.
I have Feast of the Goat for my church book group discussion in February which will also count as a foreign read for this group if I remember correctly. In Le Salon we will be reading Wallenstein. We have a spin off group reading The Federalist. Seamus Heaney's Beowulf will be discussed I think in the 75 Book challenge; I've read it but would like to hear him read it aloud and perhaps have a look at the trappings in the Norton Critical edition. Also for the 75 Book challenge I have Sense and Sensibility.
Happy New Year,
Robert
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Helen Mirren was as good as Helen Mirren usually is.
The play was set well, in the wilder sections of Hawaii, but the special effects could have been done much more smoothly. They were, to me, a huge distraction given that special effects are done so well in filmdom nowadays.
Prospera failed to give her end of career speech which was a major impetus to my looking for the real script (I've read it and watched other versions before).
I thought that people with an interest in seeing Shakespeare should see this movie, but most moviegoers should leave it alone.
A fellow I know who stages participatory readings of Shakespeare thought it marvelous, although he mentioned the zippers in some of the Elizabethan clothing, so my take may be idiosyncratic.
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I'm going to try to pick up the Heaney Beowulf for the group read as well. I've been wanting to get it since it came out.
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When I was in graduate school, 3 of us sat around a fire for several nights and read King Lear (another of my favorites). Someone was The Fool, another person was Lear, someone else was all 3 of the daughters. It was great fun! Several friends of mine were thinking of doing something similar -- a "read Shakespeare with wine around the fireplace". We still have to pick a play...
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k4k, I'm now smitten with the idea of a Tempest group read with friends. I did this sort of thing years ago and can only hope that I have enough friends currently who are game enough to try it.
Robert, good luck with all of your group reads. I'll look forward to reading about them.
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I haven't been to the local Shakespeare participatory readings, but they have been going on a long time. I think that they are attractive to quite a few people.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=857Ste6wylM
it doesn't have much to do with the text but it really captures the mood and meaning.
And then there is Peter Greenaway's 'Prospero's Books':
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtuoNCfbnYM&feature=related
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It took me two nights to read The Tempest itself. We started the year with rain, and with rain we had mosquitoes. I wasn't sleeping well because of them and thought what seemed to be an allergic reaction was related, but it turned out to be a cold. It took me forever to read the critical and other articles at the back, and I got very little out of them. After reading that stuff I still like the play as a story about a noble wizard isolated with his daughter on an island told well, very well.
I turned immediately after that to Wallenstein by Friedrich Schiller and read that pretty coherently and promptly, provoked by a thread in Le Salon Litteraire du Peuple pour le Peuple. It started out feeling pretty thin, but the narrative that preceded became more and more important thematically to the material that developed so that I became intrigued by the writer's workings. In the end we know that some of us are cut out to be the keeper of the castle rather than the prince, and for good reason.
Having three ways to turn then, with one of them aggravatingly blocked, I picked up Feast of the Goat, and my reading is straightforward in it. Comfortably into it, I know that it'll count towards the translated work for the challenge in this group. I'll also be ready for our church book group discussion of it in February. So far I haven't found a reason to value the book except for a retelling of the history I ignored in the making as a callous adolescent in high school and as an underclassman. I suppose to be artfully impelled to feel sleazy shows some strength in the work.
My CD's and Norton Critical Edition of Beowulf, a verse translation were in today's mail, unexpectedly. So I will be able to join in on the discussion on the 75 Books Challenge in 2011 thread which opportunity I feared that BN.COM had lost for me. This will also be the March book for the church book group, although I really tried to talk them into Sense and Sensibility which I will also take up soon for another discussion in the 75 Books Challenge in 2011. I hope to be able to pursue most of Austen this year with them, but that's a pretty distant goal for someone who has put her off this long.
Meanwhile I actually have been reading in and about The Federalist Papers for Urania's group. We are up to the fourth. I find myself in agreement with the idea of the United States of America. Sadly, to me, I haven't set down my thoughts very much so far.
Anyway, my reading seems to be coming together in at least some coherency, and I can refer back here to see where I have been and am supposed to be.
Robert
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Totalitarianism and the behavior and character of ordinary people of good virtue in a tyrannical society interest me. Reading this book fed that interest, but it didn't have the strength of, say, the biographies of Stalin or Khrushchev.
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Sense and Sensibility is about sense and sensibility in the young women, and some of the older folk, and some of the young men, of the independent middle class of very early 19th century England. Sense wins out.
The commentary in the Norton Critical Edition was not entirely useless so I won't recommend against it, but some of the commentary was just plain offensive, even considering the randiness of young people.
I have a book on the great financial collapse of America that I want to start right away. I have Beowulf to read for a petering out discussion on LibraryThing and a church book group discussion in March. I would like to turn to one or the other tonight, but I also have some catching up to do on The Federalist Papers to pull my weight in that discussion. And to compound the short distractions, I believe a package from today's mail contains an anthology of short stories we want to start discussing in Le Salon.
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23Mr.Durick
I have read several books about and around the subject and now add this to Secrets of the Temple, 13 Bankers, and Too Big to Fail, my favorites among those I've read, for rounded understanding of it all. The author has also posted in her threads on LibraryThing some suggestions about what to read; I will be looking at some of those.
I have started the Norton Critical Edition of Beowulf and have stopped just short of the battle with Grendel. Seamus Heaney's deliberation on his translation is fascinating and clearly led to a congenial rendition. The poetry was just flowing through my kenning as I started up the epic. This is not my first reading of the poem, but it is my first reading of this edition. I hope to get back to the discussion in the 75 Books... group, and we will be discussing the Heaney translation at church in March.
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Tolkien has made it clear that this is supposed to be read as a poem rather than as merely an historical artifact, and I accept that clarity of vision. I nevertheless wonder what to take away from it. How is my life changed by my reading of the poem as a poem?
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Grendel is now done. The importance of it I think is in the results of the dragon's lessons for the monster. Most important is: what is the meaning of life to the aristocrats if they have no monster? But of course also there is the important standing observation that there are usually second viewpoints, and this book reifies that observation.
I turned immediately afterwards to The Brothers Karamazov: Worlds of the Novel by Robin Feuer Miller because I think I need to be told what it is I read last year when I read the novel. The discussion in Le Salon... was replete in detail, but there was the old tree-forest conundrum. The first three chapters give me hope of some enlightenment.
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Despite my weaknesses in the matter I believe The Brothers Karamazov: Worlds of the Novel has been useful to me.
NB I have been using the wrong touchstone for Professor Miller; the one in this message is correct. Also I apologize for the amount of formatting in my main paragraph, but I need the emphasis and the kinds of emphasis to show my concerns.
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29Mr.Durick
Buy gold.
The book is not very well written, but the writing gets the job done.
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When I finished it last night I read a chapter about the orality of rabbinic literature, then slept well.
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31tomcatMurr
is that because rabbinic literature has a soporific effect? I have trouble sleeping. Would this help?
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I wish that there were one fat book that would tell me about Judaism in the way that I want to know it. I also wish that I could explain the way that I want to know it. I am coming to know more than I would have expected from the scattered sources I have had to use.
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36Mr.Durick
People did us wrong and profited mightily from it. That includes the regulators who still collect their salaries and inflate their resumés.
I would like to read something on what would have happened that hasn't happened if the big players had not been bailed out, especially if AIG had been allowed to collapse. I would like to read something about what would have happened if the money we spent had been used for orderly dissolution of those businesses and support of the smaller businesses that were allowed to fail because they weren't (but now are) important enough.
Other books have points to make and use details, mostly scrupulously, that need filling out. This book does that; its strength is the research that the staff did. It may have investigated with presuppositions that weren't in the investigation challenged and may, according to the dissenters, lack sufficient analysis.
Please read about this stuff. It will affect you and what happens to you might be dangerous.
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I thought earlier that I disagreed with him on his notion of volition in a fully determined world. Now I think instead that he may have a consistent view of it, but that it is still something of a muddle. (As a matter of faith I don't believe in determinism.)
If the God that is is the God that we need then I have to reflect on how the God Spinoza believes in colors my understanding of the God that I need. I should probably also reflect on whether that is meaningful.
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The book spends most of its time telling us how the dollar is imperiled; it is really a slapdash effort. The information on investing is sketchy and incomplete in frustrating ways. The book's merits are in its references. I have not pored over the bibliography, but it looks interesting. The high point is a long list of web sites that I hope to spend time with.
Put one tenth of your money into gold, half in bullion and half in stocks; adjust yearly. Caveat emptor.
Robert
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The Invention of the Jewish People will be one of my best books of the year.
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45Mr.Durick
That there are people of merit and cads at various levels of society is made plain by this book, and their motivations vary. That one is constrained by circumstances regardless of one's individuality is made plain by this book. That men and women marry well and ill and for a variety of reasons, beyond affection, is made plain by this book. Et cetera.
Serious readers of novels in English have a duty to read Jane Austen. That duty is turning out to be a real pleasure. My reading of Sense and Sensibility in the first two months of this year hinted at it, but I had a memory of the tedium of this novel just at hand; it turned out not to be tedious. I expect that I will read four more of her novels this year and perhaps some supporting literature besides the apparatus of the annotated novels or the Norton Critical Editions.
I suspect that Portrait of a Lady will be next up, but there are magazines I want to read, thousands of other books including a couple of hundred right now...
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This novel will be a high point of the quarter and strongly in the running for high point of the year.
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Also I had just finished The Glass Room when I read it the first time. It felt a little thin after that. On this reading, although it followed The Portrait of a Lady, it had enough impact not to suffer in comparison. It may be that a rereading can be a richer experience.
On to Jane Eyre.
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I have a feeling that once through Jane Austen will be a real pleasure but that I won't repeat it.
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Pride and Prejudice is a favourite novel of mine. I love Austen's wit and think she's at her best in this particular novel.
The Glass Room: I was underwhelmed by it. There was much to admire but it somehow fell short of the mark.
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What I'm also saying, then, is that without that emotional reaction the book might not be as important. I don't feel ashamed of my reaction so I suspect that there is a basis for it, but in the end it is an emotional construct.
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Bah.
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56Mr.Durick
There is a lot of information in this book. Some of it has sunk in, and some likely never will (I just used the word scullion about myself as I washed dishes at church), but a good bit of it seems incomplete. Also Mr. Pool has a competent chatty writing style that suffers from some of the solecisms of chat that can be distracting in reading. I will find this book useful, but I wish it had been better.
Meanwhile I have dipped into several books which I hope to continue in but which have set back completion of anything but this. And I have discussions and challenges coming up which require me to dive into others. I don't know what I'll be reading tonight. On offer are The Perennial Philosophy, The Oxford Handbook of Systematic Theology and The Cambridge Companion to Jane Austen, all of which I've started, a couple of books about Jane Eyre for a current discussion in the 75 Books Challenge and a June discussion at church, 2666 for a current discussion in Le Salon..., and Destiny Disrupted for May discussion at church. I feel a little overwhelmed. And just from the immediacy of it, I would like to read what I brought home Saturday because they are all calling to me.
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CURSE THE TOUCHSTONES
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I'm looking forward to hearing (or seeing, as the case may be) your thoughts as you go through.
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Gods' Man by Lynd Ward did not take very long to read. It is a graphic novel that I read, so to speak, because it was there. A closer look at the pictures later on is in order. It is the medium in this case that is important; the narrative would not hold up especially well against verbal novels (yes, excellent writing could belie this), but it supports an emotional engagement with the visual story line.
Robert
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Unfortunate about Wide Sargasso Sea. I enjoyed it a good deal, but I think you may be onto something with regards to place. The evocativeness of it is what made the book for me; the whole thing feeling like a blanket of humidity is spread over it.
Looking forward to 2666 which I'm going to start this week.
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If I can find some free time coincident with some energy in the next day or so, I'll try to dig a few of the assertions I objected to out of the book, but I can't guarantee it. I thought, though, as I read it that he might have been giving us European growth as Muslims see it, in which case it could be interesting. I didn't feel, as I read, that my objections were highly interpretive, but they may have been.
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Charlotte Bronte's Jane Eyre edited by Elsie B. Michie has informed my reading of Jane Eyre, but it did it at the cost of my wading through the muck of styles of criticism developed in the last forty years or so. Gratuitous mentions of Jane's body and phallic this or that wearied me. On the other hand the nature of Jane's character, stamina, rebellion, and compliance was brought forward in some of the articles and gave me means to think about her. This book will not be among my best books of 2011.
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I think I'll try to get back to it to finish before mid-month when I've got a commitment to read Mansfield Park.
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On to Mansfield Park and I hope back to The Perennial Philosophy and The Oxford Handbook of Systematic Theology.
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Meanwhile I am still reading the back of the Norton Critical Edition of Jane Eyre for discussion in my church book group on Wednesday and The Oxford Handbook of Systematic Theology, which I am reading at the rate of several articles a week.
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Also some pretty zany cryptozoology. I remember taking it with a pinch of salt, but being tremendously entertained.
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The reading of this book was not rich, but I think that it might be good for a lot of people to go through it.
He mentions regulation briefly and in only one or two pet areas. I tend to think that extensive careful and meaningful regulation could do much to straighten out our economy and our national social and natural environment. Now I suppose that the jerks would call me a socialist for that, but I am not interested in much public ownership of corporations, and I believe in regulation rather than direct participation in deals between economic parties. I also say that as someone who spent his adult life in government employ who distrusts a good bit of what governments do because of it -- therefore my emphasis just above.
Finishing that I turned to The Lexicographer's Dilemma, a descriptivist's dismissal of protected standards of speech so far, and think it may be interesting mostly to those people who are interested in it. I think I will enjoy finishing it, but it might not suck in grammar or language haters.
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Aftershock looks interesting. I am also interested in what you say about being in the governments employment. I spent most of my working life in Local Government in England and it certainly has left me with a jaundiced view of its workings and the politicians I worked for
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I knew a bunch of this stuff, sometimes differently shaded, from the desultory reading of my youth. This brought it together and added to it. I think this book should be standard among us lexicon lovers.
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Siberia is so big perhaps it is hopeless to try to capture its magnitude especially in a book. Its diversity and its internal consistencies might be a little easier to grasp. These latter are better portrayed by Colin Thubron in In Siberia than is the former. A map helps, but where a couple of inches equals eight hundred miles one loses touch with how far it would be to walk, and then, I guess, to walk back. Before railroads, before carriages, before horseback riding, what?
And just why can't people live in the forest and find a living?
This book contained so much information and yet left so many questions I begin to wonder whether this is part of the riddle wrapped up in an enigma that we will never get into.
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There is in a good bit of interfaith dialog and in certain giddy new age enthusiasm a claim that at heart all religions are the same or are different paths to the same goal. They are not, and there are a few voices now expressing that they are not. Among those voices is Stephen Prothero's in his book God is Not One. In this book he describes eight current religions with influence in a substantial part of the world. Sadly, although he does make some assertions as to their differences he mostly relies on the fact that their descriptions differ to make his point. He finds that it does us all a disservice to claim that all religions are the same, and thinks, I think, that a meaningful dialog among religions is possible only when we recognize the differences.
I was at an interfaith event yesterday and could not get anybody to talk about this notion. Too many people just want to feel good about being among people who all were able to talk with one another; that turns out to be pretty superficial. Oh, well.
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I thought I was the only one who was less than thrilled with People of the Book. I am relieved to know that I am in excellent company.
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I felt there was nothing to People of the book. The story was a bore, and it was all technique. I suppose I fell for the title, the exquisite cover design and the hype. When I was younger, I would carefully scrutinize books before buying, or even avoid bestsellers out of principle. Now, I so often buy in an impulse...
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Your result for What Your Taste in Art Says About You Test...
Conscientious, Fulfilled, and Spiritual8 Renaissance, 0 Islamic, 4 Ukiyo-e, -13 Cubist, -18 Abstract and -6 Impressionist!
The Renaissance was a cultural movement that profoundly affected European intellectual life. Beginning in Italy, and spreading to the rest of Europe by the 16th century, its influence affected literature, philosopy, religion, art, politics, science, and all other aspects of intellectual enquiry. Renaissance artists looked at the human aspect of life in their art. They did not reject religion but tended to look at it in it's purest form to create visions they thought depicted the ideals of religion. Painters of this time had their own style and created works based on morality, religion, and human nature. Many of the paintings depicted what they believed to be the corrupt nature of man.
People that like Renaissance paintings like things that are more challenging. They tend to have a high emotional stability. They also tend to be more concientious then average. They have a basic understanding of human nature and therefore are not easily surprised by anything that people may do. They enjoy life and enjoy living. They are very aware of their own mortality but do not dwell on the end but what they are doing in the present. They enjoy learning, but may tend to be a bit more closed minded to new ideas as they feel that the viewpoint they have has been well researched and considered. These people are more old fashioned and not quite as progressive. They enjoy the finer things in life like comfort, a good meal, and homelife. They tend to be more spiritual or religious by nature. They are open to new aesthetic experiences.
Take What Your Taste in Art Says About You Test at HelloQuizzy
Also if I read it correctly, here is a slightly bigger but still approximate picture of my results.Altogether too often I was forced to choose where I had no preference, and I thought I had selected several cubist works. Oh, well.
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Anyway, if someone talks about aspects of systematic theology within my hearing now, I'll be able at least to place it in the discipline and perhaps to place it in my own understanding. This book was fully Christian, and I am not, so I had to read into the chapters what something said might mean to me -- that is I might pay attention to the necessity of making the trinity primary in a Christian theology to see how I might in my own search look for what is primary there.
This is too difficult a book for people without some kind of compulsion or prior understanding. It is mostly narrow in its focus on Christianity. Nevertheless I am convinced that it is rich and that I will benefit from having read it.
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In the back of my mind I was sure you were a regular church goer - but how does it come about that you consider yourself not fully christian? Sorry - you have probably annswered this before. But just curious...
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I believe strongly in rationality and sometimes take on anti-Christians who, despite their claims, don't reason well, but you won't find me defending the Trinity or a notion that Jesus was any more godly than many other holy men.
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Just catching up. As always, you are doing some interesting reading.
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This is the fourth Austen novel I have read this year. Each time I have finished a book it has been my favorite, and I can remember each one as a favorite. Emma is my current favorite but with recognition that Sense and Sensibility and the others also merited that affirmation.
This Norton Critical Edition was not overburdened by a postmodern imperative to psychoanalytic, marxist, queer, feminist analysis, and most of the contextual and critical supplementation contributed to my reflection on the work as a novel to be read rather than subjected to a reading.
This book is taken by some credible critics to be the best of Austen. It may be. I think, though, that on long reflection I will reckon that I enjoyed the three earlier ones more; time will tell.
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***
Little is known about Jane Austen's life. Her family destroyed the bulk of what documentation there was. From the little that was left, from documentation outside the family, from the history of the times, and from her novels themselves a biographer has to reconstruct the most likely life it seems. Claire Tomalin has done a readable job at that in her Jane Austen: a life. My reading of the novels is better informed for my having read this conjecture, and I am hopeful of being able to bring some of it to our discussion in the Austenathon in the 75 Books in 2011 group.
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Fascism, by the way, is not to the way of thinking of the serious analysts, merely governmental tyranny. Exactly what else makes it fascism varies from analyst to analyst, some firmly writing off what others firmly require -- intense nationalism and autarky are a couple of, or unified, examples.
I actually have some sympathy for fascism, but it is so qualified that you wouldn't see it in anything I would support. I don't believe we should actually hang the capitalists; I think instead that we should regulate capitalism. I wonder whether we will. I'm not for a single party system; I just think that we should bring to trial Republicans and find them guilty. And so forth. I also have some sympathy for anarchy. I am adamantly against violence even as political expression. Mostly I am just conservative (not neo-conservative, tea party, or Republican Party), bleeding heart and somewhat green.
This book is really full of information, and I commend it to anybody interested in the subject.
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110 - interesting viewpoint, Suzanne.
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She was meddlesome at times. She was a little hypocritical about the virtues of the investments that gave her an independent fortune. She supported the Alien and Sedition Acts and some of the arrests made under them by patriots of contrary persuasion.
But is was her country, and she owed a lot to it. She was good to people in substantial ways. She spoke early about feminine equality with masculine discretion.
I was glad to take a few days to read this. My church's book group will discuss it in September.
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Such a company we have never seen grouped before; and we hope never to meet with its like again. Heathcliff is a perfect monster, more demon than human. Hindley Earnshaw is a besotted fool, for whom we scarce feel pity; while his son Hareton is at once ignorant and brutish, until, as by the hand of an enchanter, he takes polish in the last scene of the tale, and retires a docile and apt scholar. The two Catherines, mother and daughter, are equally exaggerations, more than questionable in some parts of their procedure, and absurdly unnatural in the leading incidents of their life. Isabella Linton is one of the silliest and most credulous girls that fancy ever painted, and the enduring affection and tenderness of her brother Edgar are so exhibited as to produce the impression of a feeble rather than of a virtuous character. Of the minor personages we need say nothing, save that, with slight exceptions, they are in keeping with their superiors.And from them an enduring morality tale is crafted. That great horror Heathcliff is the only one of the lot with character. That character is to be despised yet against the insipidness of the others it is on him that my fascination focused. I was ready for him to be gone, but I didn't want to stay among the others beyond satisfying my idle curiosity.
The craft of the book combined fluency with depth that it took some additional reading to plumb. In the end this was a pleasant duty.
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The book did, however, meet my expectations. That is, it is a literate travel book of an imaginary country. So I would not recommend against it.
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I was scheduled once for another load, but for one reason or another didn't go. The airplane was not really up to the trip, so I was just as glad we didn't go. I've forgotten what happened to the cargo.
I thought it might be good to be assigned there to be something of an on-duty hermit, but I failed promotion to Lieutenant Commander and became a civilian instead.
I long ago spotted Island of Shame by David Vine on BN.COM. From the little I could tell about it I was pretty sure I wanted it and put it on my waiting-for-the-paperback wishlist. It took forever, but I finally got it. I was hoping for the story of what had been built and what was going on there from this "The Secret History of the U.S. Military Base on Diego Garcia."
What I got was an anthropologically minded history of the displacement of the indigenous population that is the shame of the title. It is a compelling study, and the displacement is a shame. The Navy's complicity in it mounts from the same indifference to anything outside the establishment's greedy needs that got me in my indifference to those needs passed over for promotion. Hundreds of people tranquilly employed were tossed out of their homes without most of their possessions. Their pet dogs were shot, poisoned, and burned. They were given tiny reparation payments years after their displacement. They suffer joblessness, drunkenness, drug addiction, and early death in Martinique and the Seychelles. Bah to the British for doing this; bah to the US for compelling HMG to do it.
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Edwin, Simon Winchester is mentioned in the credits. I don't know whether Vine used his book. I'm interested in looking at the Google Earth references and hope to get to them in the next day or so.
qebo, I hope that it interests you. It may pale against African genocide for example, but to know our government's cavalier disrespect for people who are not them is important even if that particular island is not especially in your field of vision.
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I want shonka.
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I finished UFOs by Leslie Kean last night. I don't trust the author.
As I a pilot I saw two flying objects that were unidentified for awhile. In a bus load of student pilots out in the wilds of some God forsaken state, Florida or Southern California or some such, I saw an iridescent lens like object aloft hovering at length; it finally lost shape and dissipated. South of Guam one morning I saw a bright light at my altitude on a constant bearing (constant bearing threatens collision as a rule of thumb) so I called center and asked about traffic; there wasn't any. I didn't have a navigator aboard to check the almanac, but I reckoned after awhile that it must be Venus and never had a collision.
Anyway, she says we should be investigating UFO's aka UAP's and publicizing the results in the United States. They are there, and we should learn what they are.
I don't think many people have to read this book.
Robert
135Mr.Durick
Wolf Hall is about the character of Thomas Cromwell and brings along the character of early sixteenth century England and some of its important personages. The narrative structure is first person viewpoint in a third person voice. 'He' without an antecedent is almost always Thomas Cromwell. Reflections on society and recent history are always stuff that are in his memory. This is clever and revealing. We have the intimacy of interior observation but characterized by a sort of independent objectiveness. Cromwell serves himself, his household, and a few people high in his regard, but we see the importance to him from a sort of outside stance and sympathize with him as he puts other people in their place.
I really enjoyed reading this book and hope that there is a sequel.
Robert
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138Mr.Durick
It is a box full of Maru, the cat.
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139Mr.Durick
Happy to be done with the drudgery I may pick up Essential Dykes to Watch Out For by Alison Bechdel for relief later tonight, or I may get started in the fifth Austen of the year for discussion in the Austenathon in the 75 Books in 2011 group. I am contented by having those pleasures facing me after the long trek in the Alps.
Robert
140Mr.Durick
I have read the introduction to the Norton Critical Edition of Northanger Abbey and will be moving on in that, although I would like to take a look at a few magazines.
141Mr.Durick
I love sarcasm, and in this one the young author was up front in her entertaining with her wit. Some of it was directed at political matters (the privilege of the rich, perforce against the struggles of the poor; the possibility of riotous strife) which was mostly smoothed over in her later novels. Some of it was directed against the silliness of people serving themselves and pretending to be worldly. She read her writing aloud to her family, and some of this wit may have amounted to jokes in the drawing room. Her gift and craft elevated the jokes, the wit, to real literature, however.
The much vaunted parody of gothic novels actually more deeply compares the gothic novel world view with reality and finds some horrifying similarities, albeit without the grisliness that I understand is attendant in gothic fiction.
I owe a lot to this Norton Critical Edition for exposing me to the depths of Austen's writing in this short book. The novel was special enough just read through, but to see, credibly, what she was up to and how she did it, beyond what I saw for myself, made the accompanying essays important to me. Some Norton Critical Editions seem to miss the mark entirely in their critical apparatus, but this one mostly did a very good job.
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143Mr.Durick
I will be taking on the third volume in the series soon enough, but tonight will tell whether it is next.
Robert
144Mr.Durick
There were laugh out loud moments. I don't like snot jokes so I stay away from South Park. I don't like vomit jokes especially, but the vomit scene in this book had me chortling and gave me that feeling around my eyes that identifies felt laughter. There were a few other scenes that had me chuckle at least.
I have Chelsea Handler's latest paperback to read, but I may be overdosing on sweets and need for awhile something with more serious intent, history or a morose novel. We'll see.
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I also remember an article in the Guardian over here, looking at famous people picking their picture of the year. HM picked a photo of the torso of someone in a white laboratory coat carrying a frightened monkey. she said in 50 years time we would look back on such activity in disbelief 'they still did that in 2010?'.
These and similar statements make her stand out from the crowd in my opinion. I have yet to read any of her books, but I think she has to be seen as a visionary, she sees ahead of most people, and attacks things from a different angle.
I'm n ot sure if this is accessible outside the UK, b ut this is the excerpt:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00kdnv3
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PS I have discovered that the first transmission of Anna Bolena has been descheduled here in favor of a local film festival. The second showing will be when our book group meets next. So I guess I'll miss it. It is set much later in the marriage than Wolf Hall is, so it has little direct reference, but I wanted to build some sort of personal image of her.
R
148Mr.Durick
Wray Herbert is not a very lively writer, and this book was a lot duller than it should have been even with the shortcomings I have mentioned.
Robert
149qebo
Re Meta Math!, I gave it a try, briefly, and was immediately irritated by the words emphasized in bold where they would be in emotive speech, but not where they would be useful for the reader seeking important terminology, and the excessive! use of exclamation!! marks!!! It's still in my TBR pile, but it's moving downward.
I finally got around to reviewing Reinventing the Sacred, which you had expressed interest in awhile back.
150Mr.Durick
I don't encourage you to take up Meta Math!, only to report on it if you do.
Robert
151Mr.Durick
The book can absorb one if one lets it; I did. It pretty much makes the case that we need The Guide for the Perplexed. I wish I knew where my copy was. I do have an unread life of Maimonides near my pillow, and I could read that.
The book also reopens the notion that a philosemite is an antisemite who loves Jews for consideration.
I am looking forward to discussing this in my Church book group's December meeting.
Robert
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We learn from this book that Chinese popular culture is different from other popular cultures in the ways that popular cultures typically differ. We learn that Chinese is a difficult language for foreigners, especially foreigners with non-tonal native languages, to learn and that it differs from other languages in ways like other languages differ from other languages, although some not so much. We learn that we won't understand it without studying it. There are a few examples. I gave the book a full star because there are a few examples.
Don't bother with this book. I think that Oracle Bones with a slightly different center of gravity might be more productive.
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I hadn't looked carefully when I requested the book though BM, and it was a domestic mooch.
I gave it 2 stars for the value as a travel memoir. Perhaps that's what the author had in mind, and her editors, aware of her PhD in Linguistics, steered it toward (more) language. A bad brew.
158Mr.Durick
The first section was too dense for me to get it, except that there were people and regimes who made it so. There were powerful people who profited from a large China.
There were people who profited from the medieval advances, and there was a need to feed an already large population. Certain educated people were in positions to think about important questions, and developments were revealed and disseminated.
Many reasons for the failure to advance technically have been proposed by specialists. Elvin seems to think that the main reason was that marginal improvements were too expensive to be sought for in a fairly advanced age of productivity with limited natural resources at hand.
I can see why this book was recommended to me, wherever it was that I saw it recommended. It is detailed to an extent that one had to set aside a lot of what one reads if one wants to read it as a narrative -- that would be me. So I can recommend it, but with that 'beware.'
I may go for easy when I pick up another book tonight. I have Chelsea Handler's latest paperback waiting for me.
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The first chapter or so of this book was sufficiently puerile as to be tedious, but the reckoning that followed held considerable interest. I don't think that the book answers all the questions it brings up (I have others on the shelf that I still intend to turn to), but it sure addresses a lot of things that are important to all of us who are paid in, have, or spend money.
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The task is impossible. I despair.
Our church already has some of the political characteristics of a bigger congregation along the lines that he proposes in his book, but because we are not that big we don't have the resources that he says we should put into it. He is also not clear about distinguishing between hopes and reality. He says that if we have a compelling mission we can't help but grow. He doesn't allow for a credible congregation that may want to retain small service warmth. If we don't build a bigger church so as to be inviting to a bigger Sunday attendance we are not being true to the mission we would have if we were a bigger church. Without that mission we cannot attract the bigger Sunday attendance to fill those seats the we would have if we were true to that mission. Augh!
The mission is to come from the congregation, but led carefully by the powers of the church. There should be an endless deliberation in workshops to see that the congregation gets to develop the mission, but the powers must constrain the congregation so that they make it a genuine mission and a genuinely religious mission, and all that in a faith without creed. I have seen this congregation deliberate on what they want from the church; they lie; they have special interests; and so forth.
We would do best to declare the church as a Sunday morning social club for liberals. I am an old man and naturally conservative; how would I fit into that?
Augh!
I think that I will go now to read the review that is posted on LibraryThing about this book.
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163: How do you fit into that now?
166Mr.Durick
I fit in by temperance, toleration, protest, peripheral activity, and finding my place among congenial congregants. My temperance includes leaning on those things that I do agree with. I have given up on pursuing much that is transcendent in my church environment (I might expect some of the notions broached by Ralph Waldo Emerson to come up, but they don't), but I can look for what is immanently spiritual, for example social service.
I am a religious person but neither a Christian nor a Buddhist, the biggest institutional alternatives in my area. I have given some thought to looking into the Quakers. I could turn to, and often enough on other days of the week do, a twelve step program. I also keep in reserve the possibility of an entirely independent religious practice which might express itself on Sundays in day hikes.
I think I asked my question because from my experience and reflection I want more than and other than a Sunday morning liberal club.
Thank you for bringing up the question. It is important for me to reflect on these things and probably to keep what I say true to who I am.
Robert
167qebo
I'm curious: what are examples of "intellectual stimulation" that people have no opinion about?
168Mr.Durick
I cannot cite you a specific example right now of the sermons I have tried to pursue during coffee hour. I have, however, several times over asked a question like "Don't you thing so and so was a contradiction?" and received a response like "Oh, I just kinda like to get the general drift." I have mental photographs of doing that with both men and women. Adult religious education when it occurs is sparsely attended although I would say that those who do attend are very enthusiastic -- we had one retired school principal, very cranky atheist, who loved our Old Testament discussions.
I also understand the Unitarian Universalist churches vary across the country. Each is its own and furthermore one goes from Congregationalist like churches on the east coast to secular humanist societies in the west. So the proof of that pudding would be in the attending.
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171Mr.Durick
There was a lot to this book, and it could be read as a narrative. It may not be for everybody given its focus, density, and length, but anybody who read it would profit form it.
Robert
172Mr.Durick
Compare it to Martin Rees's Our Final Hour or even Death From the Skies by Philip Plait, and you'll see what a failure it is.
I tried to follow that up with Robert Durling's Paradiso (this is a link; I could not readily find a touchstone). I got through the introduction, Canto 1, and its notes and was worn out. I might pick up something else.
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The book of criticism was a little slim.
I have yet to read her uncompleted works (Lady Susan, The Watsons, Sanditon) but suspect that they will come soon.
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CURSE THE TOUCHSTONES
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Oh well.
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The first nine books of the Tanakh took the Jews from Babylon back to Jerusalem; they are a different nine books than the first nine of the Christian Old Testament (nine is what I remember sitting downstairs with the book upstairs); it is a matter of reordering not of replacement (although the Pentateuch stayed in order and became central as the works of Moses). There are intertestamental books from the late second temple history like the stories of the Maccabees. In the first century of the common era Paul wrote letters before the the razing of the temple and others wrote other books of the New Testament after it, possibly to preserve lore that would be lost without writing it down. The Pharisees thought long and hard and came up with the notion of the Oral Torah and tried to capture it in the Mishnah; rabbis commented on that and developed the two Talmuds culminating in the Bavli in the very late fifth century to very early seventh century. There were other rabbinical works that fed the spirit of the times.
That world went from a temple on a hill to a temple within us. The commonplaces could not be kept only in the heart; they had to be preserved.
And there is so much more.
It took me just shy of two weeks to read the 600 or so pages of Surpassing Wonder by Donald Harman Akenson, an historian who has looked in this book at the development of all of these tracts with an historian's eyes. The detailed contents of the tracts are not the focus here, but the general things that people developing new religions were doing came under the lens. There's a lot in this book and it is readable if possibly slow going.
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183dchaikin
Nine would add Joshua, Judges, 1 & 2 Samuel, but exclude 1 & 2 Kings. Not sure why the break. I haven't memorized what I read, but David seems to mark the break from myth to some historical accuracy. In other words, from Salomon on the authors had access to some kind of chronicles. But, I don't know which book(s) covers David.
184Mr.Durick
Genesis
Exodus
Leviticus
Numbers
Deuteronomy
Joshua
Judges
Samuel
Kings
which is your list adjusted for the integrity of those books divided later. He says:
These nine books are a unity. They take the story of the covenant -- the interaction of Yahweh and the Chosen People -- from the creation of the earth down to the 560s [sic] BCE, when after thirty years as a prisoner in the equivalent of a gilded cage in Babylon, Jehoiachin, former king of Judah was set free...That is an end to an historical chronicle written by someone who had hope, but who had no idea of what the next chapter of the Chosen People's history would contain.Akenson holds to that through the rest of the book.
I may have to find a Bible hereabouts and read those books in sequence.
Robert
186Mr.Durick
It gives some references to those who make the credible claim that it is most likely we live in a simulation. I will have to have a look at those, but apparently one philosophical conclusion in the matter is that if you believe you live in a simulation you should live for the day.
Robert
187Mr.Durick
We can't know closer to 4500 BC to 2500 BC when the proto-indo-europeans were a single coherent group, nor can we know where their homeland was. We can know that authority had a small vocabulary, and that there were wheels and agricultural implements.
I respect this book, but it is a reference more than a history (or quasi-history of a prehistoric society). I cannot recommend it for straightforward reading.
Robert
188Poquette
My LT has lain dormant for more than a month and I'm just now trying to catch up with some of the threads I've been enjoying this year – yours included. You have been reading some very interesting books in the interim. Sadly, my own list of books to be read is so long, I hesitate to add anything else at the moment, but I have at least starred this thread for future regrazing. The Book of Universes particularly got my attention. The idea that we're living in a simulation is about as good a guess as any of the others I've heard. It is certainly imaginative and makes me want to know more. Maybe I will add that to the want list.
189Mr.Durick
I'm glad to see you back.
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196Mr.Durick
Coincidental with this week's release of the American film of the first volume, the book The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo and Philosophy appeared on store shelves. I have read it. It is lightweight and not exciting on its own account, but it has taken me back into the excitement of the story reading that took charge of my attention in the first place. The authors of the articles are not afraid to invoke Aristotle and Kant. They don't only do that; they look at whether we can use the trilogy as literature, for example.
I am happy enough having read this book that I wish that The Psychology of The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo, which is winging its way to me now, were here already.
Robert