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maj 18, 2009, 3:22pm (top )Message 1: lorax

I've been dragging my heels on this one for a while now. I've been doing the LC Challenge instead, since I understand that system better, and since it doesn't think nearly 10% of all classification space should be devoted to Christianity. But this group is much more active, so I'm jumping in anyway, for a modified version.

I'm mostly aiming for the 100s (how many is it really, when you take out the "no longer used" categories?) but giving myself full permission to ignore the 200s. I'll do the same "one post per top-level category" system that most people seem to use.

maj 18, 2009, 3:28pm (top )Message 2: lorax

000: Computer science, information & general works

001 The Demon-Haunted World
002 The Book of Lost Books: An Incomplete History
003 Chaos: Making a New Science
004 Where Wizards Stay Up Late
005 Perl Cookbook
006 The Emperor's New Mind

016 The Art of Noir

022 The Book on the Bookshelf

031 The Know-It-All: One Man's Humble Quest
039 Codex Seraphinianus

069 Treasures of the British Museum

070 And Say Hi to Joyce

081 The John McPhee Reader

Missing 100s:

040 Not assigned or no longer used
050 Magazines, journals & serials
090 Manuscripts & rare books

It looks like 050 will be the only reasonable one there. Are people counting magazines there, rather than in their subject area?

Meddelelse redigeret af dens forfatter, jun 9, 2009, 4:43pm.

maj 18, 2009, 4:40pm (top )Message 3: Kira

I recommend The Voynich Manuscript as an 091 :)

maj 19, 2009, 12:52pm (top )Message 4: lorax

100: Philosophy and psychology

126 The Mind's I
128 Broca's Brain

133 Why People Believe Weird Things (added 10/12)

152 A Natural History of the Senses
153 How the Mind Works
155 Last Child in the Woods

Missing 100s:

100 Philosophy & psychology
110 Metaphysics
140 Specific philosophical schools
160 Logic
170 Ethics (Moral philosophy)
180 Ancient, medieval, Oriental philosophy
190 Modern Western philosophy

Meddelelse redigeret af dens forfatter, okt 12, 2009, 4:20pm.

maj 19, 2009, 12:54pm (top )Message 5: lorax

200: Religion

230 Welcome: A Unitarian Universalist Primer

277 Letter to a Christian Nation (added 5/26)

294 Ramayana

The first is only in the 230s by historical accident. It certainly wouldn't be there if the classification system were developed today -- it isn't Christian at all. (It has the same issues in the LC system, too.)

Not tracking missing categories here, because while I appreciate Zoe's consideration I am not going to worry about this category.

Meddelelse redigeret af dens forfatter, maj 26, 2009, 12:27pm.

maj 19, 2009, 1:01pm (top )Message 6: lorax

maj 19, 2009, 1:41pm (top )Message 7: lorax

400: Language

400 The Language Instinct
401 How Language Works
403 The Cambridge Encyclopedia of Language

413 They Have a Word For It
415 Words and Rules
417 Spoken Here
418 Le Ton Beau de Marot

420 Made in America
423 Reading the OED (added 6/18)

493 The Keys of Egypt (added 7/20)

Missing 100s:

430 Germanic languages; German
440 Romance languages; French
450 Italian, Romanian, Rhaeto-Romanic
460 Spanish & Portuguese languages
470 Italic; Latin
480 Hellenic languages; Classical Greek

I'm not about to count something like a Spanish/English dictionary for this, even though it's on my shelves, so making progress here on the 100s might be challenging.

Meddelelse redigeret af dens forfatter, aug 18, 2009, 6:07pm.

maj 19, 2009, 3:10pm (top )Message 8: lorax

500: Science

500 A Short History of Nearly Everything
508 The Silent Landscape

510 Godel, Escher, Bach
511 Data Reduction and Error Analysis for the Physical Sciences
512 Linear Algebra and Its Applications
513 Flatland
515 Elementary Differential Equations
519 Statistics for Engineering and the Sciences

520 Cosmos
523 Galactic Astronomy
526 Longitude: The True Story...
529 Faster

530 The Feynman Lectures on Physics
531 Classical Dynamics of Particles and Systems
532 The Archimedes Codex
535 Optics and Optical Instruments
536 Fundamentals of Statistical and Thermal Physics
537 Introduction to Electrodynamics
539 Concepts of Modern Physics

540 The Pill, Pygmy Chimps, and Degas' Horse
543 Spectra of Atoms and Molecules

550 The Map that Changed the World
551 Waves and Beaches
553 Salt: A World History
557 Annals of the Former World
559 Roadside Geology of Hawai'i

560 Wonderful Life: The Burgess Shale
568 Taking Wing: Archaeopteryx and the evolution of bird flight
569 Mammoth: The resurrection of an Ice Age giant

573 The Third Chimpanzee
574 Voyage of the Sanderling
575 The Panda's Thumb
576 The Outer Reaches of Life
577 Where the Wild Things Were (8/29)
578 Return to Wild America

582 A Field Guide to Hawaii's Trees and Shrubs
583 Colorado Desert Wildflowers
585 The Wild Trees

591 Last Chance to See
595 Four Wings and a Prayer
597 A Field Guide to Western Reptiles and Amphibians
598 The Big Year
599 The Red Queen

Whew.

Missing 100s: none!

Let me just say that the 520s are an area where Dewey really shows its age. It's frankly ludicrous that every single one of the textbooks for a PhD in astronomy are in 523 (with the exception of a couple that aren't in the 520s at all) -- all of modern astronomy is shoehorned into one subcategory, and most of the rest are totally obsolete.

Meddelelse redigeret af dens forfatter, dec 9, 2009, 7:32pm.

maj 19, 2009, 3:42pm (top )Message 9: bfertig

439 Born to kvetch was a pretty amusing look at yiddish - some chapters more than others - there were entire chapters devoted to cursing and body parts, so perhaps not for the faint of heart! But just a suggestion for the Germanic languages category.

Meddelelse redigeret af dens forfatter, maj 19, 2009, 3:43pm.

maj 19, 2009, 3:56pm (top )Message 10: lorax

9> Thanks for the suggestion! It looks amusing.

maj 19, 2009, 5:03pm (top )Message 11: lorax

maj 20, 2009, 1:25pm (top )Message 12: lorax

maj 20, 2009, 1:40pm (top )Message 13: lorax

maj 20, 2009, 5:37pm (top )Message 14: lorax

900: History, geography, and biography

902 The Cartoon History of the Universe
909 The Discoverers

910 Sailing Alone Around the World
912 National Geographic Atlas of the World -- yes, I have read this, or at least spent time perusing every page. I'm a map geek.
914 Notes from a Small Island
915 Lost on Planet China (added 8/7)
916 Whatever You Do, Don't Run (added 10/28)
917 Road Fever
918 Darwin Slept Here
919 In A Sunburned Country

920 Wild Swans: Three Daughters of China

930 Time Detectives (added 11/03)
932 A History of Ancient Egypt

940 Medieval Europe: A Short History
941 The Isles: A History
944 A Year in Provence
945 Tilt: A Skewed History of the Tower of Pisa (added 6/25)
946 Driving over Lemons

951 Fried Eggs with Chopsticks
955 Persepolis 2

970 1491
972 An Embarrassment of Mangoes
973 I'm A Stranger Here Myself
974 The Perfect Storm
975 Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil
976 Molly Ivins Can't Say That, Can She?
977 Population 485
978 The Worst Hard Time

Missing 100s:

960 General history of Africa
980 General history of South America
990 General history of other areas

Meddelelse redigeret af dens forfatter, nov 3, 2009, 12:45pm.

maj 20, 2009, 5:50pm (top )Message 15: lorax

Standing as of 5/20/2009:

10/10
64/99
159/919

If I ignore the 200s, I need only 28 more categories to complete the 100s challenge. However I've already done the easy ones -- there's only one on my TBR (and it's in the 200s), none on my wishlist, and two or three that got mentioned here that are on my "investigate further" list.

Meddelelse redigeret af dens forfatter, maj 26, 2009, 6:49pm.

maj 20, 2009, 11:35pm (top )Message 16: _Zoe_

If you're interested in stories of decipherment, I've read a bunch of those in the 400s:

The Linguist and the Emperor in 493 (about the decipherment of hieroglyphics; I'm sure there are plenty of other books like this in the category too)

Empires of the Plain: Henry Rawlinson and the Lost Languages of Babylon in 492

The Decipherment of Linear B in 487 (I can't remember how technical this one was, though)

There are also various general books about languages, like The Story of French in 440, though I haven't yet read it myself.

maj 21, 2009, 12:57pm (top )Message 17: lorax

16>

Thanks _Zoe_; I'd actually gone through your library and found the first two. I've been waffling between The Linguist and the Emperor and The Keys of Egypt; if you've read the latter, which would you say has more emphasis on the decipherment vs. the biography?

maj 21, 2009, 1:06pm (top )Message 18: _Zoe_

I haven't read The Keys of Egypt, but I'd actually recommend it anyway. It's co-written by the author of Empires of the Plain, which I enjoyed. I thought The Linguist and the Emperor was a bit too light to be really satisfying, though it's been a while and I can't remember the specifics. Sorry I can't be more helpful.

maj 21, 2009, 1:54pm (top )Message 19: E59F

I read The Decipherment of Linear B when I was about 13 or 14, so it's probably nerd material, but it can't be all that technical.

maj 26, 2009, 12:26pm (top )Message 20: lorax

277: Letter to a Christian Nation

892: Gilgamesh

I will update the main posts as well.

maj 29, 2009, 5:52pm (top )Message 21: lorax

While perusing the list of categories looking for areas where I might find something interesting I noticed two more where I've read something that I didn't initially notice above:

918: Darwin Slept Here

(This was in my catalog, but misclassified as a 910. It's frustrating that unlike the LC system there isn't a single authority, so when sources differ (and there is no number, or no clear winner, on LT) I have to make a best guess.)

839: A Doll's House (read way back in high school, but hey, I don't see this one happening otherwise.)

Adding these to the main tracking posts, but not dating them -- I'm only dating actual new reads.

jun 9, 2009, 4:41pm (top )Message 22: lorax

I'm entering my Read but Not Owned collection, and came across a few more:

039: Codex Seraphinianus

If my cursory scan is correct, I'm the only person in the group with a book in 039!

327: Deterring Democracy

559: Roadside Geology of Hawai'i

873: The Golden Ass

(That's the only new 100s-level category from the bunch, and it means I have all 10 for 800, as well as for 500).

976: Molly Ivins Can't Say That, Can She?

Getting all 10 for the 970s is now seeming quite reasonable -- I have a possible title for 979, leaving only 971 (Canada). Recommendations, as always, welcome.

jun 9, 2009, 4:45pm (top )Message 23: _Zoe_

Heh, but what does it mean to read the Codex Seraphinianus?

jun 9, 2009, 4:51pm (top )Message 24: lorax

Well, I read it as much as anyone can. You may not count it, but you're stricter than most.

jun 9, 2009, 4:54pm (top )Message 25: _Zoe_

Yeah, it's true, I'm unusually picky. Oh well, maybe someday someone will decipher it.

jun 15, 2009, 12:41pm (top )Message 26: lorax

595: Four Wings and a Prayer

I'm starting to wish I'd split the 500s into multiple posts; the touchstones are sluggish.

jun 18, 2009, 12:18pm (top )Message 27: lorax

423: Reading the OED

I'm not sure but I think I may be the only person here who didn't read The Professor and the Madman for this category. This was a fun book, very suited for reading in short increments as I did. For those who read The Know-it-All for 031, this is the same schtick, but for the OED rather than the Encyclopedia Brittanica -- the author describes his year spent reading the OED, interspersed with discussions of words he found interesting or amusing. (I was pleased to see that "ambisinister", a word I've coined playfully to describe being clumsy with both hands, is in fact a real word appearing in the OED.)

jun 23, 2009, 12:07am (top )Message 28: carlym

One other suggestion for the 400s--I like to pick up old travel phrase books in various languages. They're usually short, and I find them entertaining. I have a couple of War Department ones from World War II and some other miscellaneous ones. Because I can actually read them all the way through, I've counted some of those in the standard usage categories. They're educational as well--now I can say, "Are you a sniper?" in Italian. Very useful.

jun 23, 2009, 1:35am (top )Message 29: fundevogel

@ 28

how do you find those?

jun 23, 2009, 7:48am (top )Message 30: carlym

Used book stores or sales, mainly. After getting one of the war department ones from a university book sale (for 50 cents), I've gotten a couple of other off eBay because I like them so much.

jun 25, 2009, 12:32pm (top )Message 31: lorax

945: Tilt: A Skewed History of the Tower of Pisa

Slight and forgettable. Really more a "history of Pisa, with the tower as a focus" than anything else. What was the most interesting part to me -- the various projects to stabilize the tower over the centuries -- were glossed over much too quickly.

jun 25, 2009, 4:45pm (top )Message 32: fundevogel

Too bad, it sounds like it should have been interesting.

jun 25, 2009, 4:58pm (top )Message 33: lorax

32>

Yeah, it was a disappointment. At least I picked it up for fifty cents at a book sale.

jul 1, 2009, 1:06pm (top )Message 34: lorax

jul 6, 2009, 12:22pm (top )Message 35: lorax

jul 6, 2009, 4:26pm (top )Message 36: AnnaClaire

>35
That's a good candidate for the "books with great titles" thread that's floating around somewhere.

jul 20, 2009, 12:21pm (top )Message 37: lorax

493: The Keys of Egypt

This was something of a disappointment; there was more on the biography and less focus on the actual decipherment than I would have liked. It's made me reconsider whether I want to read the other Adkins book on decipherment (Empires of the Plain, which Zoe mentioned upthread), if it's just going to be more of the same.

jul 20, 2009, 2:19pm (top )Message 38: _Zoe_

I'm sorry if I misled you! If you don't want any biography, you probably shouldn't bother with Empires of the Plain. But you might still enjoy Reading the Past: Ancient Writing from Cuneiform to the Alphabet or The Decipherment of Linear B.

jul 20, 2009, 2:56pm (top )Message 39: lorax

38>

Well, you said you hadn't read Keys of Egypt, so you didn't mislead me, I did that all on my own. :) And I don't mind a little biography mixed in with the history, the balance of this was just a little too much on the biography side.

aug 7, 2009, 1:23pm (top )Message 40: lorax

628: Seven Wonders: Everyday Things for a Healthier Planet

This is a good one for those of you struggling with the 600s -- while it's a little dated and didn't have much I didn't know, it was still interesting -- it looks at seven small things like the bicycle and the clothesline and the environmental benefits of using them.

915: Lost on Planet China

Bill Bryson-style travel narrative about China. I'm amused that this one falls in the travel section (which it should), while the fairly similar Fried Eggs with Chopsticks has just enough history mixed in between the travel sections to get classified as 951 (history).

aug 29, 2009, 6:46pm (top )Message 41: lorax

577: Where the Wild Things Were

This was an Early Reviewer book. My review is at

http://www.librarything.com/work/5283749...

Highly recommended.

aug 31, 2009, 2:37pm (top )Message 42: bfertig

What a wonderful review of Where the wild things were. I have now immediately added it to my wishlist.

It's interesting though - the debate about top-down (ie predators control what ecosystems look like and how they function) vs. bottom-up (ie. the supply/limitation of nutrients controls ecosystems via the growth of primary producers - plants - and hence primary consumers - herbivores - and secondary consumers - omnivores and carnivores) goes back and forth, and some ecosystems show evidence of one while others show evidence of the other, etc. Likely, it is not hard and fast, but a spectrum whose rules we still don't fully understand.

It's really cool that the book starts out with the otter and star fish examples. Those papers are very famous within the ecology and marine biology communities, and are getting to be considered 'classic' by many. I remember reading them for classes I've taken.

sep 1, 2009, 2:36pm (top )Message 43: lorax

Thanks, bfertig! I agree that the top-down vs bottom-up issue is probably a false dichotomy, and I'm glad that someone who actually knows what they're talking about agrees. :)

sep 1, 2009, 2:39pm (top )Message 44: lorax

634: Introduction to Fire in California

I've had this on my shelf for about a year now, and was finally prompted to pick it up by the Station Fire which is now burning near us (not close enough to be a threat -- just close enough to ruin the air, and have very impressive views of flaming mountains when they aren't obscured by smoke).

This should be required reading for anyone living in southern California.

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Meddelelse redigeret af dens forfatter, sep 1, 2009, 2:40pm.

sep 1, 2009, 3:44pm (top )Message 45: bfertig

Interesting - I received Wildfire and Americans from someone on Bookmooch - it looked interesting at the time, but I haven't gotten to it yet. Have you read that one? It's 307 (Communities), so it could give you another DDN as well.

Meddelelse redigeret af dens forfatter, sep 1, 2009, 3:46pm.

sep 8, 2009, 7:58pm (top )Message 46: lorax

okt 12, 2009, 4:17pm (top )Message 47: lorax

Two after a long lull:

643: Homes and Other Black Holes by Dave Barry -- what an easy one!

133: Why People Believe Weird Things (this was my first for the 130s, which was my first new 100-level since July, and in what would be an extremely tough category for me).

okt 15, 2009, 5:05pm (top )Message 48: lucien

>47
What did you think of Why People Believe Weird Things? It's a subject that's always interested me. I read How We Know What Isn't So last year and enjoyed it, especially the first parts of the book that talked about the cognitive and social elements of how we are given and how we perceive information (backed with simple psychology experiments). The later parts just devolved into the author pointing out how silly some of these beliefs were instead of tying them back to the earlier topics. I know the beliefs are silly - that's what makes the topic interesting to me. Does the author really dig into why people believe these things?

Meddelelse redigeret af dens forfatter, okt 15, 2009, 5:06pm.

okt 27, 2009, 12:44pm (top )Message 49: lorax

916: Whatever You Do, Don't Run

This was very enjoyable.

okt 27, 2009, 1:26pm (top )Message 50: lorax

48

Sorry I missed your question earlier! It does dig into the "why" somewhat, especially in the introductory and concluding chapters, but I wouldn't say that's the sole focus.

okt 28, 2009, 8:34pm (top )Message 51: lucien

Thanks. I read a bit of the introduction at the library today. It seems interesting. And I need something for the category - it's either this or a history book the Salem witch trials.

nov 3, 2009, 12:47pm (top )Message 52: lorax

930: Time Detectives

This is a good popular overview of a number of interesting archaeological finds, with the unifying theme of 'archaeology isn't just digging up pots anymore'. I enjoyed it quite a bit.

nov 3, 2009, 10:11pm (top )Message 53: sjmccreary

#52 This one looks very interesting, I'm adding it to the wishlist to check out later.

nov 4, 2009, 5:08pm (top )Message 54: fundevogel

Agreed, I was convinced I wanted to be an archeologist when I was a kid.

dec 9, 2009, 7:30pm (top )Message 55: lorax

568: Taking Wing: Archaeopteryx and the evolution of bird flight

This was okay, nothing special, but not exactly boring either. It's a tough category, though, so I was glad to have this one!

dec 15, 2009, 6:18pm (top )Message 56: lorax

954: India: A History

Finally! I've been reading this on and off (a couple chapters between other non-fiction books) for what seems like forever. I'd been looking for years for a good, comprehensive history of India that didn't start when the British arrived (or worse, when they left) and this fit the bill in spades -- sufficiently comprehensive that it was very slow going and hard to follow at times. I would have liked it to be a little less of the kings-and-battles school of history, though I do understand that sometimes that's all that's available.

650: Bait and Switch

This, on the other hand, was a quick read. Not as good as Ehrenreich's earlier Nickel and Dimed but still worth a read.

dec 15, 2009, 9:41pm (top )Message 57: sjmccreary

#56 India, A History looks very interesting, I've added it to the wishlist. Have you seen that Keay has another - similar - book out called China, A History? Will fit in #951, if you don't already have something there.

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